wrote:
>
> Don't know Pat, but I agree...give credit where it's due. I never
> hesitate to mention MIU when somebody asks me where I went to
school.
> It was still a great place to go back then (early 90s) and hadn't
yet
> gotten too weird.
>
> Amazing he didn't get caught at some of those activities, (and
that he
> was able to hide them well enough to go to TTC while others were
kept
> off for far lesser reasons) considering the level of spying going
on at
> that point, or so I thought.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think Pat was denied acceptance to TTC the
first time he applied.
>
> Sal
>
>
> On May 6, 2006, at 6:02 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:
>
> > I only knew him from passing but he was at MIU for the several
years
> > when I was there ('75-'79). Seemed pleasant enough. I
remember him
> > as being very talkative...that's about it.
> >
> > But what you say above reminds me a bit of Pat Ryan who was
also at
> > MIU at the same time. Ryan also left the Movement and became an
> > infamous TM-EX. I don't want to knock the guy too much but
when I
> > knew Pat it was when as a 17 or 18 year old he had just arrived
at
> > MIU and was skeptical and cynical about the teaching and went
out of
> > his way to find out "secrets" and go to meetings that anti-TM
> > fundamentalists were holding in town and then corresponding with
> > them for years afterwards. I mention this because years later
when
> > he then became a TM teacher and then years later left the TMO he
> > made it seem that all the revelations about TM that he had come
to
> > realize were new to him. The reality was that he was told all
of
> > this stuff by the fundies about 15 years prior. So he knew
exactly
> > what he was getting into and he can't feign innocence about
having
> > the wool pulled over his eyes by the evil cult.
> >
> > Another thing about Pat (and I should say I thought he was a
sweet
> > kid...kinda like a puppy dog who would follow you everywhere):
when
> > Pat came to MIU he was illiterate. That is, he wrote and read
at,
> > literally, a Grade 2 or 3 level. To his credit, that first
year he
> > worked his ass off improving himself and bringing himself up to
a
> > level where he was pretty much at par with everyone else. But I
> > mention this because: 1) MIU accepted him despite this handicap
> > (okay, they were probably desparate for students and this was
> > probably their motivation); and 2) teachers, TAs and others at
MIU
> > helped Pat overcome his illiteracy. It would be nice that
while he
> > trashed the TMO and all things TM, he could acknowledge their
part
> > in helping him overcome his illiteracy.
>
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