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>
> On May 23, 2006, at 12:53 PM, authfriend wrote:
>
> > OK, Vaj, I've now read both parts of the two-parter you
> > posted here by Nanda, as well as the additional essay
> > you just put up.
> >
> > Your subject heading is misleading in several different
> > ways.
> >
> > First, "Vedic Creation Science" is your term, not
> > Nanda's. You created it with the intention of
> > conveying a highly misleading guilt-by-association
> > between MMY's Vedic Science and Christian Creation
> > Science.
> >
> > Second, in neither essay does Nanda "debunk" even just
> > plain Vedic science. Her treatment of it is extremely
> > superficial and essentially polemical, not analytical.
> > (As I noted elsewhere, she is said to go into more
> > detail in part 2 of her book "Prophets Facing Backward,"
> > but one certainly finds no debunking in the essays.)
> >
> > Third, although she mentions TM and MMY in passing, she is
> > clearly not familiar with MMY's Vedic Science (she refers
> > to it as his "Unified Science," apparently conflating
> > "Unified Field" and "Vedic Science"). She also refers to
> > Transcendental Meditation as if it were an integral part of
> > the Hindutva version of Vedic science, which is of course
> > not the case at all.
> >
> > What she's actually debunking has very little to do with
> > Maharishi's Vedic Science. It's of interest to observers
> > of the Indian political scene, and to political-type
> > trends in the philosophy of science, but it has only the
> > most remote and fuzzy connection to anything TM-ish.
> >
> > If I had been the one to post her essays here, I would
> > have noted this up front, so as not to misrepresent her
> > work or mislead readers into thinking MMY's Vedic Science
> > had been conclusively debunked by Nanda.
>
> It's probably either that you lack the necessary insight to see
> the connection or you're still stuck inside the TM Vedic paradigm
> (or both).
More Jell-o, what you always ooze when you can't
actually address the point.
> Suffice to say, since this first appeared on a Sanskrit
> scholarly list, I've shared it with a number of TMer's and they
> (for the most part) got it without having to have me spell it out
> for them. Others have even commented on the political machinations
> behind it. Mahesh is a key figure in this revisionist Vedic
> Creationism.
Perhaps you could point to something Maharishi has
said that could be characterized as "Vedic Creationism."
According to Nanda, Vedic creationism proposes "to
replace Darwinian evolution with "devolution" from the
original one-ness with Brahman." Where has MMY proposed
that Darwinian evolution should be replaced by this
"devolution"?
The political machinations of Hindutva are one thing;
the validity of MMY's Vedic Science (i.e., Hagelin's
theories as informed by MMY's teaching) on its own
terms is something else entirely.
My point is that Nanda's polemic, at least what you've
posted, is concerned with the former, not the latter.
I'm only peripherally interested in the former, whereas
I'm actively interested in the latter. I would be most
eager to read a debunking of MMY's Vedic Science by
someone who was expert in both the Vedas and Western
science, but as I've noted, such people are few and
far between, and Nanda is clearly not one of them.
> It's not a problem, I understand you either can't or do not want
> to see this this! If you still haven't got it (obviously the case)
> there's nothing anything else to say.
You're tilting at a straw man, Vaj. Why do you have
such trouble addressing the issues I've raised?
(Have you ever noticed that your syntax and spelling
disintegrate whenever you're challenged?)
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