Thanks for taking the time to read what I wrote and for your reply.
Revisiting these concepts in the light of people's experience in this
group is valuable to me. I remember the TM party line about those
words. Now I am interested in how people like yourself think about it
with a broader perspective.
"I think there is a spiritual implication to this, because the clarity
of awareness does fluctuate."
This is what I am having trouble wrapping my mind around. Can you
articulate how our awareness fluctuates? I can't locate a reference
experience for myself these days. I know how I used to describe it to
someone new to meditation as: "sometimes you feel sleepy and your
awareness is foggy and that effects your knowledge". I am looking for
a more developed view of the concept of awareness enhancement.
I think I understand your point about understanding as more stable
than experience. I can usually remember a perspective even when I am
tired. I may not be as generative of the perspective when I am tired,
but I can usually access what I understood in that state when I felt
more awake. But once I am rested I don't see much difference in my
awareness day to day.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> on 5/23/06 9:33 PM, curtisdeltablues at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I don't think my "ability to know" fluctuates at all to
> > any significant degree day to day. Of course I don't mean this in any
> > spiritual way, it is just that I have lost all interest in monitoring
> > whatever quality I used to care about when I used to think of
> > "awareness" as something that changed or could be developed.
>
> I think there is a spiritual implication to this, because the clarity of
> awareness does fluctuate. Experiences which can come, can also go. But
> understanding is much more stable, and ultimately, understanding is what
> gets you enlightened (keeping in mind that there's no "you" which "gets"
> enlightened, blah, blah). That's because it ultimately enables one
to grasp
> (again terms are inadequate) that which is and was always there, and
which
> is rock-solid in its stability. That's why advaita and neo-advaita
teachers
> are so effective for so many people. Some think they offer a cop-out
("you
> don't have to do anything; you're already enlightened") and maybe
for some
> that's what they do. In fact, I hear of people who bought into that
line for
> a while, and are now realizing there's still work to do, and are
returning
> to some form of sadhana. But for those who have already done decades of
> sadhana, the subtle understanding these teachers may enliven can be
> profoundly transformational. Maybe that's not what you were getting
at, but
> that's what came to mind when I read (and reread) your post.
>
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