wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
> <shempmcgurk@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
> > > <shempmcgurk@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The poor put-upon Iranian leadership and parliament. Wa-wa-
> wa.
> > > How
> > > > could the evil West ever have done such an injustice to them?
> > > >
> > > > Of course, leave it to that other Bully Incarnate -- Billie
> > Batts -
> > > -
> > > > to be the first out of the starting gate to defend these
> > promoters
> > > > of mass-murder and terrorism.
> > > >
> > > > Billie, you really should educate what happened to the
> millions
> > of
> > > > Iraqis and Iranians who died under the leadership of both
the
> > > > Ayatollah Khumeini (who sent tens of thousands of 12-year-
old
> > boys
> > > > to Paraside) and Saddam Hussein (whose unmentionable
> atrocities
> > to
> > > > both his own people and the Iranians are too numerous to
list
> > > here).
> > > >
> > > Dead is dead, whether by Saddam and the Ayatollah or Bush.
Dead
> is
> > > dead is dead. Does it really matter who pulls the trigger?
> > >
> > > This Holier Than Thou attitude of those here in the US (or
> Canada)
> > > who would wage war to 'defend freedom' is such BS. To kill
> others
> > in
> > > the name of lofty ideals does nothing except destroy those
> ideals,
> > > and cause incalculable suffering.
> > >
> > > Talk about a high horse. Anyone who thinks war is noble,
> justified
> > > or necessary in this day and age is sadly mistaken, imo.
> > >
> >
> > Never? Not, as you say above, "necessary" ever?
>
> We can come up with hypotheticals, such as a direct attack by
Canada
> or Mexico, for example,
9/11 isn't a hypothetical.
It actually happened. Unless, of course, you are a conspiracty
theorist and believe it didn't happen at all...
where a military response would be
> necessary, but I can't personally justify any military action
taken
> by the US since WWII.
So, the invasion of Afghanistan according to you wasn't justified.
>
> > So you are against having a military at all?
>
> Practically speaking, some kind of deterrent force is necessary.
To
> make it a centerpiece of our foreign policy is not ultimately or
> useful, though. We have a massively strong economy, with all kinds
> of possible leverage points available there. Look at China, they
> manage to bend us to their will without resorting to any military
> force,
I think the Taiwanese would disagree with you.
Also some students at a certain square in Beijing.
purely as a result of wisely using economic leverage. Why
> can't we do the same?
>
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