>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > >
> > > De Waal's work with bonobo chimps has facinating information
about
> > > primate cultures. His work Peacemaking Among Primates is a
great
> > book
> > > for finding the roots of many social customs in our ancient
past.
> > >
> > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/067465921X/103-7153482-6367068?
> > v=glance&n=283155
> >
> > Aside from the fact that their societies are
> > matriarchal, and that they would apparently
> > rather make love than war, of course.
> >
> > I'd guess you cited the bonobo as evidence against
> > my speculative suggestion that humans may intuit
> > "orderliness" and that this intuition may be a
> > source of their sense of ethics.
> >
> > However, bonobos are among the very few species of
> > non-human animals who have passed the "mirror test,"
> > which is thought to be a sign of self-consciousness.
> >
> > So I suggest that they may also have a primitive
> > intuitive capacity that can sense "orderliness."
> >
> >
>
> I've seen housecats who apparently passed the mirror test.
Not sure what you're thinking of as the "mirror test."
It involves painting a spot of odorless dye on the
animal's body, then putting it in front of a mirror.
If it reacts in a manner consistent with recognizing
that the dye is on its own body rather than in the
mirror--e.g., reaching or looking for the spot on its
body--that's passing the mirror test.
Simply reacting to seeing one's image in a mirror
doesn't constitute passing the test. In my
observation, cats tend to react to their image in a
mirror as if it's another cat; they don't appear to
recognize it as an image of themselves.
I've also seen house cats look
> both ways before crossing busy streets, and if they see a car
coming, they step back on
> the sidewalk.
>
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