wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@>
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > So you're pretty safe IMO in naming anything
> > > as a possible attribute of enlightenment, but
> > > the minute you do, the mind starts excluding
> > > the attributes you didn't name, or the ones
> > > you consider opposites of the ones you did.
> > > I think that's the reason some teachers refused
> > > to ever get into the "name game" and propose
> > > such "lists."
> > >
> > Not necessarily. If the mind is the entity trying to
> > choose attributes of enlightenment, then it will fail
> > every time.
>
> Exactly. Which is why I agree with Buddha and
> the other teachers who never get into the "name
> game" and pinpoint "attributes." They are not
> doing their students a favor when they do so.
> They are, in fact, contributing to their
> ignorance.
>
> > Enlightenment is that feeling all of us have had where
> > we're just 'in the flow', effortless, and it either
> > lasts as short, intermittent experiences of 'being in
> > the flow', or longer times, or a constant, fully
> > intergrated with 'chop wood, carry water'.
>
> While I agree with the spirit of what you say,
> as usual you have oversimplified things. You list
> only two possibilities, when there are billions.
>
Every story or explanation is a simplification. Where you saw two
possibilities above, I saw an infinite number, perhaps the infinite
number of two! ; )
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