sparaig wrote: >--- In [email protected], Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>sparaig wrote: >> >> >> >>>--- In [email protected], Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Vaj wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>On Jun 8, 2006, at 7:57 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>--- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>A friend who is on the test team for MS internet explorer says the >>>>>>>reason it has not been added sooner to MSIE was because MS's emphasis >>>>>>>is on a "standards compliant" browser rather than one with lots of >>>>>>>bells and whistles, therefore MSIE will always be more conservative >>>>>>>compared to what's out there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>Gotta chuckle at your friend's naivete. IE has >>>>>>long been known as the *least* standards-compliant >>>>>>browser on the market. Microsoft seems to believe >>>>>>that if they do it, that constitutes a 'standard.' >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>All I know is when something doesn't work in Firefox, which >>>>>occasionally happens, if I go to MSIE, it always has worked. Not sure >>>>>why, it may be it handles *badly* written code better and Firefox is >>>>>too standards compliant. in any event these people on the test team >>>>>are far from naive, quite the opposite, he actually has switched to a >>>>>Mac at home, builds his own PC's and uses Firefox! A Bay area >>>>>developer just snagged him in any event. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>I have heard from some engineers that Firefox still has some memory >>>>leaks in it that haven't been fixed. That's why I occasionally get the >>>>Linux equivalent of a crash window with the ability to send Mozilla a >>>>bug report. I just got tired of this hole and that hole being found in >>>>IE and of course wanted to dump the whole virus and trojan thing >>>>altogether and primarily use Linux for email and web browsing. There's >>>>no IE for Linux, of course. :) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>The biggest security problem with Windows is the fact that a good portion of >>>IE >>> >>> >libraries > > >>>are actually kernel-level WIndows libraries. This means that any security >>>problem for IE >>>affects ANY application that might be connected to the internet in some >>>fashion, even >>> >>> >if IE > > >>>itself is never started up. Windows itself uses IE libraries, BTW... >>> >>> >>> >>As a technical director for a software company in the 1990s I was >>invited to a number of Microsoft seminars and actually I raised the idea >>of being able to use a library interface to contact the Internet so the >>user wouldn't have to go to IE or have it pop up and break the >>immersion of the interface. It also does away with a lot of >>implementation problems for the developer as well as support problems. >> >> >> > >You missed the key word "kernel-level" --as long as the libraries sit in the >kernel, they're >part of the OS and have all the privleges and power of the rest of the OS. > > > No I didn't. That's what we asked MS for access to. But most of it is still in DLLs considered part of the kernel.
>There's nothing wrong with system-wide libraries, and MacOS X has several >different >kinds, but NONE of them, save the kernel itself, is in the kernel. > >The exception is the Sony CD protection which requires a reboot to install, >and actually >modifies the kernel in order to implement a rather nasty and dangerous copy >protection >scheme --dangerous because it acts just like the IE libraries that sit inside >the Windows >kernel. > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Everything you need is one click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
