--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > Country         WWII deaths/100 population
> > -------         --------------------------
> 
> That should be deaths per 1000 population, of course.
> 
> But do spend some time looking at the full chart:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_casualties_by_country
> 
> The numbers dispel a lot of silly American dick-waving
> about World War II and how important they were to it.



Yes, the chart is instructive: US military death 407,000. French
military deaths 212,000. 

But far beyond, that, the US committed 16 million troops to WWII,
(which is 40% or France's entire 1939 population), suffered over
500,000 wounded, (beyond dead) and an almost incomprehensible amount
of machines of war, all at a cost of over 2 trillion ($1990), a per
capita cost of $15,000,($1990). 

I am generally against the US entry into WWII (certainly as it
happened, probably in all circumstances) and certainly against US
involvement in WWI (a European war between corrupt imperialst powers
ultimately squabbling over their subjected lands). And absolutley
against and sickened by French and British intensely harsh, inhumane 
terms at the Treaty of Versaille -- which created the seeds and
foundations of WWII and which understandably came back with a
boomertang force of destruction upon the European victors,
particularly France and UK). 

Outcomes in war, as in most dynamics, are won or lost on the margin.
Add 16 million soldiers and $2 trillion, one outcome unfolds. Don't
add 16 million soldiers and $2 trillion, and another outcome unfolds. 

To state or imply that the US had inconsequental effect on the outcome
of War II is the depth of silliness and ignorance.








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