Judy, Again, I am heartedned that your manfiest critique of my observation -- that you maybe confusing correleation with causation with regards to "being rich" and "empathy towards the 'non-rich'" -- is a minor and not substantive one, and focuses on my poor traits -- not a critique of the thesis itelf.
--- In [email protected], new_morning_blank_slate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], new_morning_blank_slate > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], new_morning_blank_slate > > > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > When rich people talk about money, they're talking > > > > > > about something entirely different from what poor and > > > > > > middle-class people mean when they talk about it. > > > > > > They might as well be on different planets. > > > > > > > > > > Your speculations of how others', or perhaps your own, values > > > > > and motivations may change with substantial wealth is simply > > > > > speculation -- not a well reserched set of studies developing a > > > > > concensus view of researchers on this issue. Same with my > > > > > speculations. > > > > > > > > <snore> > > > > > > Yes, my comment was a bit leaden. But I could not think of a better > > > alternative to counter the, IMO, weak writing that conveys a broad > > > sweeping generalization about a group, as if its universal, when it > > > at best applies to only a portion of the group. > > > > I believe the portion you quoted above applies > > across the board, even to people like Bill Gates. > > > > The <snore> was because mine was a pretty unexceptional > > observation, almost a truism; > > That the rich lack empathy towards the non-rich perhaps it is almost a > truism to you and perhaps to your peers, but its far from universl. To > me, to imply its "universal" (which I infer from your comments) is a > cognitive error, a social myth, a quite empirically ungrounded > specualation. Perhaps if you (to coin an "insult" :)) that 'you read > my post' :) you would have seen a few examples and my personal > observation that a number of wealthy have high degrees of empathy > (empathy being the trait you observed or speculated was low among the > rich). Additionally, as I observed, (and am NOT claiming that you also > observed), there is a high degree of compassion and deep values among > at least some rich. And some notable exceptions, such as Paris Hilton. > > > >but you have a habit of > > taking exception to such observations even when there's > > virtually no little excuse to do so, > > I am not citing small exceptions, but quite large ones, in my experience. > > More broadly, I am campaigning against weak sweeping universal > generalizations made to an entire class,when there is little evidence > for such universality other than your (quite limited,IMO) personal > sense of truisms. > > > apparently just to > > hear yourself talk. > > If you wish to start a new thread on "The Massive Shortcommings of > New.Morning" I could start it with at least several 100 points. But I > am biased. I am sure you cite 1000's of points, real or imagined. And > just let Unc get started. Perhaps you and others can start the thread > and I will add as my time, deep introspection and humor enable. > > However, I do think such a topic should be in its own thread, and not > mixed in with discussions of ideas. Arguments and points taken should > be strong enough to stand on their own merits -- and not rely on > suppositions that the poster has weak character traits (my inference, > perhaps incorrect, of what you wrote above.) > > And some people will not be interesed at all in "The Massive > Shortcommings of New.Morning", and skip over the post. Others will > jump right to it, like some skip the front page to get to the comics. > I know I will, being a superficial kind of guy, I will jump right to > that thread, and ignore the substantive ones. > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
