--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Jun 28, 2006, at 8:37 PM, authfriend wrote:
> > 
> > > --- In [email protected], Vaj
> > <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Jun 28, 2006, at 4:03 PM, authfriend wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> --- In [email protected], Vaj
> > <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Jun 28, 2006, at 2:33 PM, sparaig wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > >>>>> So anyone who thinks they have become
> > enlightened using TM and
> > >>>>> the tM-Sidhis, must be deluded?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Interesting suggestion.
> > >>>
> > >>> Gosh, Lawson, it looks like Vaj forgot to answer
> > >>> your question.  Maybe you'd better ask it again.
> > >>
> > >> Well it's not an easy answer, nor one I am
> > comfortable in
> > >> answering, but you asked.
> > >>
> > >> Delusion or "deluded" is too vague. It's a
> > classic "Boomeritis
> > >> enlightenment"--really a green meme phenomenon
> > where pluralism is
> > >> infested with narcissism, "all is one" and let me
> > tell you about
> > >> it.  Because it's a green meme thing, that means
> > there is no real
> > >> jump to second tier consciousness, no quantum
> > leap, no yellow or
> > >> turquoise meme. There's a certain aspect of it
> > that is both a Mean
> > >> Green Meme (MGM, the "sensitive self gone awry)
> > and Mean Orange
> > >> Meme (MOM, scientific achievment leveraged for
> > spirituality's use)
> > >> but don't be surprised to also see some other
> > first tier memes
> > >> thrown in: orthodox, 'one way to experience
> > things' Blue
> > >> orthodoxy/control and Scientific materialist
> > aspects the Orange
> > >> meme (e.g. hijacking physics as PR/spin device:
> > <cha-ching>).
> > >
> > > LOL!!  Classic Vaj.
> > 
> > LOL, classic Judy--worthless response merely meant
> > to inflame. Take  
> > your Preparation H Judy, it might help!
> > 
> > >
> > > I'm glad to hear you weren't comfortable with this
> > > answer, Vaj.
> > 
> > No, wrong. I was not comfortable giving a generic
> > response to the  
> > original comment. I was and am comfortable with the
> > remarks I did make.
> > 
> > 
> > 'nuff said.
> 
> 
> Liar, liar pants afire!

Thanks, Vaj, I really appreciate your material here. I couldn't find 
the less mucked about version, but I think you have a solid and 
worthwhile grasp of the assumptions made about 'enlightenment' and 
who's got it and how, as well as the 'or not'. -- I like your 
objectivity with respect to our personality disordered contributor as 
well. Wish I could say those things so clearly. I just shake my head 
and wonder who looks after her in that Long Island *home*.






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