shempmcgurk wrote:

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>>>In a message dated 7/3/06 12:30:25 P.M.  Central Daylight Time, 
>>>babajii_99@ babajii_99
>>>Where is  all of this electricity going to come 
>>>from? Did you know that an  
>>>enormous amount of electricity is lost, in thin 
>>>air, just in  the transmission 
>>>from power station along the power line grid,  
>>>before anybody uses it?
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>>Hydrogen is creeping up on the inside  lane. Google
>>for Stanley Meyer, Linnard Griffin, Andrija Puharich.
>>Some  new ideas, some old. The Eldridge patent for
>>striking an arc under water  and getting H2 and CO
>>expired in the last year of WW1.  
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>>Exactly, it's a little while down the road though, not that  far 
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>>can't stop what we are doing, use of fossil fuels, until we  have 
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>>economically feasible enough  to replace  it.
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>The solution will lie with the free market.
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>That's why I am always admonishing people here that it is THEY that 
>are responsible for global warming if they continue to consume 
>gasoline themselves, through their cars and plane tickets.
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>Exxon doesn't consume very much oil themselves; it is their 
>CUSTOMERS who do. And their customers are...YOU.
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1.  The human race has had autonomous transportation for thousands of 
years either by: foot, horseback or carriage.  You are not going to 
change the mindset overnight.

2.  Therefore what we need to do is deprogram the trend towards the 
ownership of larger vehicles.   During the energy crisis of the 1970's 
smaller cars caught on but then there was the "Volvo" trend where the 
Volvo was thought to be a safer well built car to drive because it would 
protect them better.  Car companies jumped on that bandwagon and went 
back to building bigger cars.  The hippie wives of the 70's became 
middle class soccer moms of the 80's and 90's and wanted "safer" vans to 
haul their offspring to practice and games.  Hence the car companies 
responded with bigger vans and particularly SUVs.

3. Wouldn't it have been better if instead of a knee jerk reaction 
people sat and thought out the problem more carefully.  Large SUVs 
should not have received the tax exemption they got which made them more 
attractive.  The economics of the soccer mom mentality needed to be 
looked at more carefully.  Perhaps even Americas over the top obssession 
with sports needed to be looked at which seems to assume every kid will 
become a sports star and retire their parents.  This is of course 
unrealistic.

4. Perhaps like we have anti-smoking commercials we need public service 
commercials that educate the public to the expense of continuing to 
operate big vehicles and what they do to the environment.  Unfortunately 
car dealers and salespeople seem to have "carny" mentality.  Did you 
know it was the Dodge brothers who foisted this style of car dealing on us?

5. And of course we now have more behemoth trucks on the highways since 
they have taken over from rail shipping.  Truckers hate car and SUV 
drivers.  But we don't have the funds to do truck lanes anymore which 
would help.  So everyone thinks a bigger car will help in a collision 
with a Mack Truck though probably nothing will except another Mack Truck 
(oops, don't give them ideas).

6. What we need of course are smaller more practical vehicles and more 
practical and useful mass transit.  Last week we had "spare the air" 
days in California.  Mass transit was free but many found that it was 
largely impractical.  A commute that took 1 hour or less by car wound up 
taking two hours by mass transit.  In the San Francisco Bay Area you 
have BART which is an expensive rail based system.  It is often crowded 
and serves a limited area.   In San Jose their light rail system is less 
expensive to maintain and often built on abandoned rail lines.  
Portland, Oregon also has a successful light rail system.  We need more 
of these and less BARTs.

7.  It's going to be difficult to implement any kind of solution as the 
"status quo" is only interested in their preservation and not in 
improving life on this planet.

8.  And of course the root of the problem *is* overpopulation.  If 
everyone on the planet wanted to have the US standard of living it would 
require 4 planet earth's to provide those resources.  Houston, we have a 
problem...   We need need to reduce the population but in a humane way, 
not by war, not by man made diseases, but by rational means.






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