--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > On Jul 14, 2006, at 8:14 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings > > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > dge. > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> SSR's focus is on his breathing techniques, not meditation. Can > > >> you imagine MMY supporting that idea?>>. > > >> > > >> There was a guy called Ishvara that did the same thing. Focus on > > >> breath. Been there, done that, bought the t-shirt....useless. > > >> (Try a hug anyone? ) > > >> > > >> OffWorld > > >> > > > > > > Pranayama, by itself, is supposed to be a valid way to gain > > > enlightenment. > > > > No, it's a prerequisite for certain practices, like using a mantra....
FWIW: YS II 52 tataH kSiiyate prakaashaavaraNam Taimni's translation: >From that (caturthaH [praaNaayaamaH]? - card) is dissolved the covering of light. The same is stated in III 44, this time as a nominal sentence (suutras containing finite forms of verbs, like "kSiiyate" in II 52, are extremely rare): bahir akalpitaa vRttir mahaa-videhaa; *tataH prakaashaavaraNa- kSayaH*. Taimni's "commentaryish" translation: The power of contacting the state of consciousness which is outside the intellect and is therefore inconceivable is called /mahaa-videhaa/[great bodiless? - card]. From it is destroyed the covering of light (literally: from it light[prakaasha]-covering [aavaraNa]-destruction[kSayaH]). > > In which case, why doesn't SSRS have everyone learn to meditate? > > And you can obtain enlightenment via many different methods, at least according to > Patanjali. > > > > > > However, MMY > > > has always claimed that TM is the best single method out there, at > > > least for householders. > > > > And since naiveté was high then, people bought what he was selling. > > Never mind it was bad information: repeat something enough, people > > believe it: esp. groups of people vata-ed out from rounding, hanging > > on your every word... > > > > > I > > > can't imagine that he's changed his mindl. > > > > No, he's still tries to sell whatever he can! > > > > Unlike yourself, who hasn't bought into anything. > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
