Excellent start for understanding these guys.  Your point about not
depersonalizing them is right on.  With both sides tarring the other
with one-dimensional projections, I wish your perspective was more
common.  Nice one.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> >
> > > I don't think you are giving the hopelessness and impotence 
> > > the 'credit' it deserves when spawning terrorism. It is not the 
> > > hopelessness and powerlessness borne of individual 
> circumstances, or 
> > > a run of bad luck, such as most of us in the wealthy and 
> powerful US 
> > > might imagine. 
> > 
> > 
> > Hey Jim,
> > 
> > But I thought that the 9-11 guys were anything but hopeless.  They
> > were educated guys.  They could have followed many others who have
> > gone to other countries and supported the tech boom.  I worked at a
> > company with a bunch of Syrian programmers.  Things were tough at 
> home
> > so they came here and made great money, which they often sent home 
> to
> > help their families.  One of the scariest problems with suicidal
> > terrorists is that we can't just chalk it up to lack of 
> opportunity.
> > 
> 
> Hi Curtis,
> 
> Kind of a special case with the 9-11 guys, since they were from 
> Saudi Arabia and educated. I don't want to get into their heads that 
> much, but I think the sense of being powerless played into their 
> decision, in addition to the ringleader being basically a hateful 
> person.
> 
> My point in talking about this is that we tend to ascribe fantastic 
> motives to our enemies, sort of a refinement to calling them names; 
> gooks, nips, krauts, and ragheads to name a few. This helps further 
> the conflict because we are no longer fighting human being like us. 
> Instead they are 'extremists' wanting to 'destroy us because of our 
> freedom'.
> 
> I am not saying they are rational beings that just need a good hug 
> to straighten them out. Far from it, though it doesn't make them 
> monsters or some sort of incomprehensible violence freaks either.
> 
> People are all, whether we like it or not, basically the same. All 
> hard wired to respond the same way to the same stuff. A little bit 
> of reflection and it is easy enough to see how this current 
> terrorist phenomenon came about.
>







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