--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jul 18, 2006, at 11:32 PM, sparaig wrote: > <snip> Someone who becomes enlightened > > spontaneously enjoys the favor > > of ALL the devas, regardless of any "worship" of them via > > meditation or whatever. > > > Where do you get this stuff? That's extremely misleading > characterization, esp. since all I'm really talking about in ishta > practice/TM. If the person was initated into the Matrika chakra and > has attained mantravirya (the power to spontaneously discern and use > all mantras behind name and form) then he might. But initiation into > the Matrika chakra is something relative and has to be learned from > the guru. Even an enlightened master can have provocation from > different beings. >
Two different time scales here. in Sparaig's case he is speaking of the ultimate result of having gained enlightenment, achieved through TM (or any other similar practice). The universality that one realizes oneself to be naturally brings all support of all devas, simply because one is realized as no different from them. Vaj, you appear to be speaking of the challenges one encounters once spiritual freedom is attained. You are incorrect in calling sparaig's comment misleading. There is nothing misleading about it- However you bring up an important point, that once we are enlightened, there are successive expansions of our enlightenment that must be accomplished. These occur naturally though, after our spritual freedom is gained, which can be accomplished through TM. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
