--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jul 18, 2006, at 11:32 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On Jul 18, 2006, at 2:54 PM, Bhairitu wrote: > >> > >> > >>> I disagree with you though that a lot of people don't know how to > >>> see > >>> trends. I think that about 20% of our population that ability > >>> and it > >>> doesn't take being a yogi to do so. Just step back and look at the > >>> bigger picture is all it takes. > >>> > >> > >> Yeah, some people have some predictive ability, others do not. Those > >> who really can grok global trends before they happen though will have > >> some purva-punya (good karma) in their nodes. However a yogi will be > >> able to modify his environment using consciousness and action. The > >> man-on-the-street is usually limited to mere waking dimension > >> actions. The secret, hidden idea behind 'support of nature' in TM is > >> really the ancient pagan idea that your ishta-devata will give you > >> various "boons". Most TMers have no clue this same idea has simply > >> been spun with modern lingo and sold. > >> > >> > > > > It's far more than that. Someone who becomes enlightened > > spontaneously enjoys the favor > > of ALL the devas, regardless of any "worship" of them via > > meditation or whatever. > > > Where do you get this stuff? That's extremely misleading > characterization, esp. since all I'm really talking about in ishta > practice/TM. If the person was initated into the Matrika chakra and > has attained mantravirya (the power to spontaneously discern and use > all mantras behind name and form) then he might. But initiation into > the Matrika chakra is something relative and has to be learned from > the guru. Even an enlightened master can have provocation from > different beings. >
I'll take my own cognized stuff over your traditional master stuff, thanks. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
