--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In my haste to respond to your reproduction of the "Pulp Fiction" > quote I didn't notice that you, too, had read that he was going to > play the voice of God.
I don't think it can be posted too often! It makes me laugh out loud every time I see it! > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > I was definitely thinking that you would dig that quote! Your > > inquisition quotes are very interesting. Funny, sad, scary, and > > fucked up all at once! Good find. I need to look into some of > that > > material. It is a fascinating study. > > > > I think it applies very well to the usual movement style of > > discrediting critics. I was accused of "never meditating > correctly" > > by some MIU officials when I spoke out against TM years ago. > Here I > > think we are dealing with something different, something more > > personal. Sometimes the most vitriolic people are really the most > > fragile. It would be unkind to say more, but I suspect you already > > know everything I could say about this! > > > > Thanks for your post and I'm glad you got a chuckle out of our man > > Jules! Did you see that Samuel Jackson will be the voice of God > in an > > audio Bible? > > http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/jackson%20voices% > 20god_1002655 > > I can' t remember if I got this item on this group or somewhere > else. > > It sounds like something a couple of stoners would come up with in > > between bong hits doesn't it! "Duuuude, you know what would be > totally > > coooool. Make an audio Bible and have Samuel Jackson play the > voice > > of God! That could never happen!" > > > > Thanks again for the great quotes. > > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > > > <curtisdeltablues@> quoted: > > > > > > > > JULES (Pulp Fiction) > > > > > > > > There's a passage I got memorized, > > > > seems appropriate for this > > > > situation: Ezekiel 25:17. "The path > > > > of the righteous man is beset on > > > > all sides by the inequities of the > > > > selfish and the tyranny of evil > > > > men. Blessed is he who, in the > > > > name of charity and good will, > > > > shepherds the weak through the > > > > valley of darkness, for he is truly > > > > his brother's keeper and the finder > > > > of lost children. And I will > > > > strike down upon thee with great > > > > vengeance and furious anger those > > > > who attempt to poison and destroy > > > > my brothers. And you will know my > > > > name is the Lord when I lay my > > > > vengeance upon you." > > > > > > > > Just a thought Judy...you might want to dial back a bit > > > > on your self-regard. > > > > > > LOL. :-) > > > > > > Either that or have an epiphany similar to Jules' > > > and give it all up in favor of walking the earth, > > > like Caine in Kung Fu. :-) > > > > > > Really, the mentality of those who consider them- > > > selves the moral mind police of the world is mind- > > > blowing sometimes. Here's an interesting quote from > > > another of them: > > > > > > "Indeed it is all too difficult to get the heretics > > > to reveal themselves when they hide their errors, > > > instead of frankly confessing them, or when reliable > > > and adequate testimony against them is lacking. In > > > such a case all kinds of problems confront the > > > Inquisitor... Laymen of staunch faith find it a > > > scandalous matter if an inquisitorial trial, once > > > begun, is abandoned for some kind of lack of method. > > > When they see the learned thus deceived by common > > > and vile persons, the faith of the Faithful is to > > > some degree weakened; for they believe that we have > > > at our disposal luminous and certain arguments that > > > cannot be refuted, and that they expect us to be > > > able to vanquish [the heretics] in such a way that > > > even a layman can clearly follow the arguments. It > > > is therefore inexpedient in the presence of laymen > > > to debate matters of faith with heretics who are > > > so astute." > > > > > > Practica Inquisitionis Heretice Pravitatis > > > Bernardo Gui, 1323. > > > trans. Peter Amann. 1967 > > > > > > He goes on in the Practica Inquisitionis to outline > > > the method that should be used instead -- vilify > > > them such that the 'Faithful' discredit anything > > > that the people being declared heretics have to say. > > > Bernardo Gui was clear in his instructions to the > > > young Inquisitors he was trying to train that *any* > > > method they chose to use to vilify and discredit > > > the "heretics" was not only legal, but blessed by > > > God, because they were "protecting the Faithful." > > > > > > Distorting the truth was permissible. Distracting > > > onlookers by focusing on nitpicks was permissible. > > > Basically *anything* was permissible, because they > > > were doing "God's work." > > > > > > Doesn't his phrase "luminous and certain arguments > > > that cannot be refuted" have a familiar ring to it? > > > Those who consider themselves God's Mind Police feel > > > that they have such arguments at their disposal, and > > > that these arguments are supposed to be able to > > > "vanquish" any critics or those who deviate from the > > > dogma. When those with the mindset of an Inquisitor > > > speak these "luminous and certain arguments" that > > > they have been taught to parrot, they tend to *assume* > > > that the matter is settled, and that they have > > > "vanquished" the heretic in question. > > > > > > So when, against expectation, the heretics refuse to > > > be vanquished (meaning, both for Gui and for certain > > > people on this forum, that they don't *confess* > > > to their "sins" publicly), then there is only one > > > alternative left to the godly -- vilify them, and > > > attempt to get the Faithful to ignore anything they say > > > in the future before they even say it, "for their own > > > protection." The impression is to be given to the > > > onlookers (the Faithful) that listening to anything > > > these heretics say is *dangerous* for them, and could > > > put their immortal souls in peril. > > > > > > The instructions in Gui's manual for Inquisitors go on > > > to state that the moment the Inquistors realize in a > > > trial they have a heretic on their hands who is *not* > > > going to confess, or who shows intelligence and convic- > > > tion in his beliefs, or who dares to "talk back" to > > > them as if they are not the Ultimate Authority, what > > > they should do is to stop talking directly to the > > > heretic, and instead *start* preaching to the Faithful. > > > > > > The goal is to cover the fact that they have been unable > > > to get the heretic to confess, and to concentrate instead > > > on convincng the bystanders of the heretic's supposed sins. > > > > > > Sound familiar? > > > > > > Of course, for the Inquisitors, the next step would > > > be to rush the heretics out of the room and torture > > > them until their minds were broken and they finally > > > *were* willing to "confess" in public. If the heretic > > > died before confessing, the young Inquisitors were > > > instructed to tell the 'Faithful' who had seen them > > > defy the Inquisition that the heretics *had* confessed > > > and re-embraced the Church, just before dying. > > > > > > Just be thankful that the TM fanatics don't have > > > torture available to them as a "debating tactic," > > > because I don't think I'm alone here in suspecting > > > that some here on this forum would not hesitate to > > > use it. > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! 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