--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Probably not "flying" in the physical sense, but in the inner sense. > > The experiential reports and my own experience with these sutras is > that they are very experientially close to what is described in the > Plato's 'The Story of Ur" in The Republic, book X IIRC. If you're not > familiar with this myth, the gist is, there's been a great battle and > many dead soldiers lie rotting on the battlefield. So they start > burning the bodies on a funeral pyre. One body, the great warrior Ur, > appears dead but his body has not decayed. They put him on the pyre > to burn him and dude sits bolt upright and tells the story of his > journey beyond the ego and beyond life, into the celestial realms, > the lokas. > > Makes one wonder if the Greek mysteries were interconnected with > ancient yogic traditions or if simply these are universal experiences > of consciousness leaving the body. Suffice to say when read Plato's > story of Ur, my jaw dropped to the floor. It was just so much the > same experience.
Of course there's a connection --Greece was part ofthe Indo-European cultural thingie.. THe TM researchers focused in on it with one of their early studies on the sidhis. They compared the spontaneous descriptions of "falvors" from those specific sidhis with Plato's Ideal descriptions of the movement of the stars. > > On Jul 21, 2006, at 1:21 AM, cardemaister wrote: > > > > > I seem to recall being mentioned during my siddhis course > > that one "purpose" of Sun, Moon and Polar Star (suurya, > > candra, dhruva) is to be of help in "navigation" during Flying. > > Be it as it may, both Vyaasa and Bhojadeva mention "rays" > > in their comments on YF-suutra. The relevant passage in > > YS-bhaashya goes like this, I believe: > > > > tatas tuurNanaabhitantumaatre vihRtya rashmiSu viharati > > (tataH; tu; uurNa-naabhi-tantu-maatre...) > > > > My attempt at translation: > > > > But then (after having been able to walk on water) having > > walked on a mere warp(?) of a spider's web he moves on > > in (on?) rays (rashmi_Su: locative plural of "rashmi"). > > > > Bhojadeva: > > > > [...] aadityarashmibhishca viharanyatheSTam aakaashena gacchati. > > (aaditya-rashmibhiH; ca; viharan; yathaa; iSTam...) > > > > ... moving (viharan) with the rays of sun > > ([aaditya]-rashmi_bhiH: instrumental plural of "rashmi" ) > > he goes (gacchati) by(?) aakaasha (aakaashena: instrumental > > singular of "aakaasha") as (yathaa) "he wishes" (iSTam). > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
