--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
> > <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > With the Iraqi PM pressing for more US troops to come to Iraq 
to 
> > > stabalize the mess Bush has made there, and with the Israelis, 
> who 
> > > have now said they invaded Lebanon with the intention of 
having 
> > the 
> > > international community set up a military protected 
> international 
> > > zone there. And with UN troops fighting more Taliban in 
> > Afghanistan 
> > > now.
> > > 
> > > If Israel loses in Beirut, or is very hard pressed there, then 
> > will 
> > > the US have to send troops there to keep the peace? Or risk an 
> > > Israeli loss. 
> > > 
> > > If peacekeepers are not sent there (and few other countries 
will 
> > be 
> > > enthusiastic to go), will Israel, as it is hard pressed from 
> > further 
> > > attacks inside Lebanon, have no choice but to push even 
further 
> > > north and risk a conflict with Syria or Syrian/Iranian backed 
> > > insurgents?
> > > 
> > > Does this mean there will be a shortage of troops for US 
> > campaigns? 
> > > Is this the chance GW Bush has been looking for to have an 
> excuse 
> > to 
> > > institute the Draft? He wouldn't want to make Iraq the excuse, 
> but 
> > > once he has them drafted many of them will go to the quagmire 
in 
> > > Iraq.
> > > 
> > > OffWorld
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > ***************
> > 
> > Support evaporates rapidly when the cost gets high:
> > 
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/27/washington/27poll.html
> > 
> > "Americans are overwhelmingly pessimistic about the state of 
> affairs 
> > in the Middle East, with majorities doubtful there will ever be 
> > peace between Israel and its neighbors, or that American troops 
> will 
> > be able to leave Iraq anytime soon, according to the latest New 
> York 
> > Times/CBS News poll. 
> > 
> > A majority said the war between Israel and Hezbollah will lead 
to 
> a 
> > wider war. And while almost half of those polled approved of 
> > President Bush's handling of the crisis, a majority said they 
> > preferred the United States leave it to others to resolve.
> > 
> > Over all, the poll found a strong isolationist streak in a 
nation 
> > clearly rattled by more than four years of war, underscoring the 
> > challenge for Mr. Bush as he tries to maintain public support 
for 
> > his effort to stabilize Iraq and spread democracy through the 
> Middle East.
> >
> 


> So that means, that without international peacekeepers, Israel 
will 
> lose the war. Their tropps, who are not gung-ho for this - will be 
> forced to keep fighting hardened geurillas in Lebanon, and push 
> further north in order to stop shelling that will come from there 
> eventually , then risk a fight with Syria or Syrian and Iranian 
> nationals fighting independently of their governments.
> 
> Or they will have to pull back to Israel admitting a loss and have 
> more continuous shelling and possible incursion .
> 
> Without US troops Israel loses this war. With US troops, Bush 
loses 
> everything and US is embroiled in 3 quagmires.
> (all of which could have been avoided by just focusing on 
> Afghanistan and improving relations with Iran, which were quite 
good 
> during Afghan invasion and afterwards.)
> 
> This current situation is a black hole for the US.
> 
> OffWorld
>

******************

As expected, the online Economist notes today that "Four UN 
peacekeepers were killed by Israeli bombs in southern Lebanon, 
making some governments warier of sending peacekeeping troops."

Even if other countries sent troops into Lebanon, the range of 
missiles will increase over time, as you note, and so there is no 
military solution to this problem. There's also no diplomatic 
solution, a genuine black hole created by stupid people who create 
problems with no solution. Only an increase in values of 
intelligence through TM and the pundits could possibly change the 
situation.






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