I was in that class too. Pat's perspective changed when he attended an intervention exit counseling of his sister out of a Christian cult. It was after we graduated from MIU in '79. That was when he felt he might have to look into his own involvement with TM differently.
--- In [email protected], "suziezuzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I personally knew Pat Ryan when he was a student in the 70s at MIU > and on a 79 advanced rounding summer course. He was part of the > artsy crowd, Jodi, Chester, etc., and I never, never got the > impression that he had any negative TM-MIU attitudes. As a matter of > fact, he was quite MMY-MIU-TM positive. His claim on TM-X that he > was brainwashed by MIU recruiters to attend the college was total > BS. He could have left anytime but chose to stay the full four years > for a degree, during which time, whenever I saw him, was all smiles > and never complained. Obviously, it was an event that occured after > he left MIU that changed his mind. Mark > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > Sal, > > > > I think I am running in different circles, so I haven't heard from > or > > seen anyone here. I remember when Pat Ryan showed up at a big DC > > course around '88. I alway thought that was pretty ballsy! I did > > play some music for an old MIU friend's party this month, with all > > sidhas and governors but me and my girl and maybe one other non TM > > person. Seemed like people let bygones be bygones and just enjoyed > > the music which I really appreciated. It was the first time I had > > hung out at a sidha dominant gathering in 17 years. There were > very > > few hardcore people, mostly family types, probably like the > Fairfield > > mix you know. They even served wine and had a real hotdog option > > along with the juice and tofu so everyone had a good time. My GF, > who > > had never met any TM people to her knowledge, thought the women > were > > especially open and friendly and the men were very shy. I thought > that > > was a funny observation. "All these middle aged, thin, shy men" > was > > her comment. She has never hung out with any self-development > type > > crowd. There were mostly people who knew me from my Center stint > and > > only a few old MIU classmates. It was really nice to reconnect. > > Since I was not exactly in a position to report anyone, I got many > an > > earful of how people had included other teachings into their lives > but > > had to hide it from the hardcore types. I think it was mostly from > > posting here that I was encouraged to go. I'm glad I did, it > filled > > in some gaps. > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Sal Sunshine <salsunshine@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Sort of in the middle for me--how's that for annoying > ambiguity? :) > > > Really, I've always been a bit lazy about pronouncing it "Ma ha > RI shi" > > > so I simply skip the second syllable, and use "Ma RI shi" > instead. So > > > far, nobody's bothered to correct me--either they haven't picked > up on > > > it, or, more likely, they figure it's hopeless. :) > > > > > > Never got into the "Muh HAAR shi" trip--now *that* sounded > really > > > pretentious IMO (in a way, it's sort of the flip side of the > Mahesh > > > label)--same thing with the Ayur Veda/Ved stuff, along with the > > > pundits/pandits spelling--my personal favorite at the > moment. :) And > > > yeah, I do remember when the switch started--at the Taste of > Utopia > > > Course (in 82, I think) and the first person who tried > to "convert" me > > > to start talking like that seemed pretty much like a clueless > > > basket-case. > > > > > > Yep, we're cooking here, although June was pretty nice and the > serious > > > heat didn't start until a few weeks ago. > > > > > > Seen any of the old crowd out there? > > > > > > Sal > > > > > > > > > On Jul 27, 2006, at 2:42 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > > > > > > Hey Sally, its been a while. So the real question is whether > you use > > > > the affected "Mahaarshi" or the old school "Maharishi"! > Remember when > > > > everyone started making that switch? Then they started with > the Ayur > > > > Ved, instead of Ayur Veda. So many ways to sound special! Are > you > > > > guys baking out there too? DC has been hot, hot, hot. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Sal Sunshine > <salsunshine@> > > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> That's the way I feel and how I always refer to him in > writing, > > > >> primarily (for moi anyway) I'm simply too lazy to type out > Maharishi > > > >> each and every time, MMY is so much easier. In conversation I > always > > > >> use Maharishi--it's the name that always comes to mind in > connection > > > >> with him, it feels right, and I don't really care much how he > got it. > > > >> > > > >> Sal > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Jul 27, 2006, at 10:19 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> o I am cool with MMY and it doesn't throw out an unnecessary > FU to > > > >>> the people who still value him. > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
