--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" > > <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], MDixon6569@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 8/1/06 12:50:58 P.M. Central > > Daylight Time, > > > > jstein@ writes: > > > > > > > > *If* he really wants to be a decent person and > > live > > > > up to his Christian ideals, his father's anti- > > > > Semitism must be a horrible conflict for him. He > > > > > > seems not to be able to cross his father; maybe > > > > > > he's afraid his father won't love him any more > > if > > > > he does. Not a good place to be in. > > > > > > > > He may believe in the biblical teaching that one > > doesn't betray > > or > > > > disrespect ones authority figures, no matter how > > wrong the may be > > > > because God gave them authority over you. > > > > > > On the other hand, he has said that his father has > > > "never lied to him." > > > > > > It's a good point, though, that he may actually > > have > > > a religious conflict, but I'd suggest that's in > > > addition to an emotional conflict about publicly > > > disagreeing with his father. > > > > > > As a public figure himself who made a > > controversial > > > movie about Jesus Christ, he can't just keep > > entirely > > > silent. He's going to be asked about it over and > > > over, and whatever he says is going to be given > > wide > > > publicity. So he really is between a rock and a > > hard > > > place. He can't publicly *agree OR disagree* with > > > his father. > > > > > > No wonder he drinks... > > > > Hmm. Now I'm wondering whether the idea of making > > the movie about Christ was part of this prompting I > > suggested he's getting from his psyche to get the > > conflict with his father out in the open and deal > > with it. > > > > That didn't work, so the next thing was for him to > > have a drunken meltdown in which he more or less > > channeled his father. > > > > Gibson was very good, by the way, in the movie > > "Hamlet," which he directed and starred in. > > "Hamlet" is very much about father conflicts. > > > > Does "Braveheart" have anything about fathers > > in it? I never saw it. > > > > I did see "Patriots" (and wished I hadn't--it was > > dreadful). Can't recall whether there was father > > stuff in that--he *plays* a father, but I'm not > > sure there was anything in it that resonated with > > the current situation. > > A psychoanalytic look at Mel's movies easily reveals > an unresolved Oedipal conflict. In most of his movies > he plays a charming, rebellious, under-valued, > adolescent-like character always bucking the > established authority and at time betrayed by it: > Brave Heart. In a sense Mel is still a boy because of > the narcissitic domination of his father, who from all > accounts, is a real bastard. A stiff, unloving father > who is in unconscious competition with his son can > never truly value and love his son and psychologically > support his transition into adulthood and becoming a > man. Mel has the classic Oedipal, love/hate > relationship with a narcissistic father that produces > a man-boy who is desparately seeking his father's > witheld approval and simultaneously raging against his > father's unacceptance of him. No wonder he > self-medicates with booze. Mel's a bit of a mess! > -Dr. Freud at the Movies
Whatcha think of my idea about "Passion of the Christ" being an unsuccessful (subconscious) attempt to force that conflict with his father out in the open--via the anti-Semitism issue-- and the drunken episode being the real (if extremely messy) breakthrough in that regard? I mean, he can't *not* deal with it now. He managed to tiptoe around it with "Passion," but it looks to me like his psyche got so fed up it decided to arrange a head-on collision. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
