--- In [email protected], "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], Rick Archer <groups@> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Rick,
> > > 
> > > I am not familiar with Fairfield life, but wouldn't you rather be with
> > > Maharishi than some Indian lady, even if she is doing some good?  How can
> > > the little good she is doing compare with total reconstruction of life on
> > > earth--and Maharishi's letting us be part of it with him.
> > 
> > Apparently you're not in the habit of examining your underlying assumptions
> > and judgments. I've been consciously trying to culture that habit for
> > several years. Almost everyone has layer upon layer of them, and their
> > worldview is deeply conditioned by them. In your case, it appears that you
> > harbor the "what I'm doing is the best, and therefore everyone else's path
> > and teacher are inferior by comparison" attitude. This is common in
> > religious and spiritual groups, and is really nothing more than a tactic the
> > ego uses to preserve and inflate itself, thus postponing it's annihilation
> > (enlightenment). You might try Byron Katie: http://www.thework.com. She
> > presents a simple system of discriminative analysis that's very effective in
> > cutting through the inner bullshit.
> > 
> > > It's amazing.  
> > > She's not another system, is she?  Isn't she just someone who goes around
> > > and tries to inspire people to be happier?
> > 
> > Like describing Maharishi as a cute little guy who giggles and holds
> > flowers. 
> > 
> > >  Is Irene really into it?
> > 
> > Very much so.
> > > 
> > > John Hagelin said for everyone to apply and if their application wasn't
> > > coming through in a timely manner to send an email directly to him and
> > > he'd take care of it.  It's worth a try.  And especially since you are
> > > his teacher!!  He told the story of how you came into his hospital room
> > > and told him about TM at Maharishi School at graduation or something.  He
> > > admires you.
> > 
> > And I admire him. I don't admire his callous womanizing, his drunk driving
> > conviction, etc., but he has a great intellect, and basically a very good
> > heart. He's a sincere seeker, but he seems to have his work cut out for him,
> > dealing with his shadow.
> > > 
> > > You have such a fine intellect and you are such an important part of this
> > > community.  I think it would be a wonderful opportunity.  It's pretty
> > > amazing to be lying in the dome after second round and have Maharishi
> > > call and ask for experiences and go deeply into them--sometimes in terms
> > > of Vedic Science, other times in just a simple but profound way.
> > 
> > Even if I wanted to go, which I don't, they wouldn't let me in without a
> > major inquisition, which I wouldn't submit to for one second, unless they
> > wanted to be subjected to one as well. And I wouldn't want to do that to
> > them. I know things about Maharishi and the movement that I don't foist upon
> > people still dedicated to them. I think it's wrong to disillusion people
> > unless they want to be disillusioned. When you think about it, the word has
> > a positive connotation. To be enlightened is to be dis-illusioned.
> > 
> > Part of my "examining underlying assumptions" attitude is the simple desire
> > to know the truth about things. This hasn't led to a negative attitude, as
> > my tone above might imply, but rather, to what I consider a balanced one. We
> > don't live in a black and white universe. TM-Ex people (if such still exist)
> > have traded one fanaticism for another. They've swung to the other end of
> > the spectrum. The truth of the matter is represented by the entire spectrum,
> > and believe me, it is stranger than you might imagine. Really a stretch
> > coming to terms with it, but then, that's good too, because Brahman
> > incorporates all paradoxes. That's why the Puranas are full of them.
> > 
> > Rick
> >
> Really nice, thoughtful reply, Rick. Re the part about not wanting to 
> disillusion people 
> unless they want to be disillusioned - I agree with you, bit I do wonder how 
> people will 
> feel when the books about inappropriate sexual conduct come out?  There will 
> be lots of 
> denial, but I also wonder if eventually people will be angry that secrets 
> were kept for so 
> many years. Some people have NO idea about this stuff and it will be 
> difficult to 
reconcile 
> with a lifetime of devotion.  Devotion is black and white, rarely gray.
>

So, sex is OK for everyone else, but not MMY? Assuming that the books actually 
get 
published, of course.






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