--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], gerbal88 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > I think it is great that you got to that level of exposure. It > > gives > > > you a rare perspective on the whole thing that is really rare. > Plus > > > at the time you must have really been having a blast around the > > > nuttiness of MMY. People around him were so intense and > eccentric > > > weren't they? But to have been in that position had a mythic > > quality > > > that must have been really fun. Interesting detail on the > > mantras. I > > > think the effect is that it made the priests want to touch > > teenagers! > > > > Brilliant. Maybe explains the priestly sexcapades, maybe even > > Mahesh's! but I certainly didn't instruct that many priests. > > > > Your reference to the nuttiness might explain things, it was > > something like a contact high! Mahesh, of course, palmed it off as > > the wonderful effect of being in the presence of the guru (not, > > exactly, in those words). If anything, being around him and the > > wannabe's (those who tried their best to project a higher lever of > > evoloution than everybody else) certainly spread what Vaj calls > the > > foo foo rays! > > > > It was insane and at the same time glorious. That is part of the > > difficulty of being so much on the inside looking out. Because > word > > got around that I was the chosen one (which could have been "the > > current chosen one" but no one was sufficiently alert to be that > > discriminating) all kinds of people confided all kinds of things. > > > > It was quite heady. Even Lillian Rosen took to unstressing on me, > as > > we took long walks and she babbled away. It sort of put a crimp in > > something Mahesh said about her: when people give advanced > > techniques, they can be seen as gurus; but with Lillian, I know I > am > > taking no chances. > > > > I got one of my advanced techniques from her. It was at MIU and > there were about 5 of us taking the puja with her. We were told > that those of us who were initiators could sing along as she did the > puja. > > So that's what I did. Now, she must have been instructing hundreds > a day and doing dozens of pujas. And I think she had it down pat > vis a vis her schedule and I think she was in the habit of doing, > certainly, a thorough puja but at a fast clip. > > Well, I was having none of that. I paid my -- whatever it was: $75 > then? -- money and I was going to get my monies worth. So I set the > pace for the puja and did it slow and steady and she had to attune > her cadence to mine. > > Well, after she bowed down to the floor at the end, she came up with > the angriest and dirtiest look on her face directed at me!
Good for you. Lillian could be an absolute misery. But when she and I went for long walks, she was actually quite nice and seemed to need a friend. -- She probably thought of herself as GURU and was pissed off that Mahesh was right! -- I heard that she died. Is that true? I also heard that she showed up to give advanced techniques, announced that the 'sidhi' stuff was better and got back on the plane without ever leaving the airport and without giving (silly word) anybody anything (well, I supppose, she did give some bad feelings, cannot charge for that, can we!) > > Poor old sod. She must have given a huge amound of $ to the old > > Bugger and no sooner did she get what she paid for than Mahesh > > trumped her with the 'sidhi' stuff. Now, there's foo foo rays and > > contact highs and delusional thinking and a drain in the bank > account > > that leads directly to Mahesh's Swiss account and his own brand of > > mafia. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], gerbal88 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Great story! It sounds like you had the MMY job with Guru > Dev > > for a > > > > > while, reading his mail, how interesting. Paul Marashall, > who > > was > > > > an > > > > > M initiator, told me that he asked MMY about non M > initiators > > > > teaching > > > > > monks and priests with the householder set of mantras. > MMY > > told > > > > him > > > > > "Just let them use those mantras and we'll pray that they > will > > > > work!" > > > > > Paul was a little tweaked that MMY didn't seem to be taking > > his own > > > > > system's distinctions seriously. > > > > > > > > It was interesting and Billy and Lewis were flipping out > because > > they > > > > were sure I would be the next Mahesh! What a chortle. No body > had > > the > > > > job for long. Mostly it was one of the women who followed him > to > > his > > > > room every night. It was like a nightly parade. > > > > > > > > Mahesh made me an M-group initiator before I left the > psychotic > > > > hothouse to "go and teach". He gave me two mantras, one for > > > > monks/religious brothers/priests and one for nuns. Turns out, > > they > > > > were two teenage mantras from Fiuggi. -- Same spelling. (aying > 18- > > 19 > > > > and ayim 20-21) So, do those teenagers turn out to be > monks/nuns, > > or > > > > do the monks/religious brothers/priests and nuns begin to act > > like > > > > teenagers, all those lush hormones and so on? > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], gerbal88 <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > > > > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought you were referring to the MIU geniuses who > > claimed > > > > that I > > > > > > > had never meditated correctly after I left the movement. > > > > > > > > > > > > Curtis, I do not remember if I repeated this incident here > at > > > > FFL. > > > > > > When Mahesh first asked me to do his letters, I started by > > > > reading > > > > > > them to him. One of the first was from some guy who said > he > > was > > > > > > saying his mantra backwards and having visions of demons. > He > > > > actually > > > > > > asked what to do!!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Mahesh laughed and said it didn't matter, just to continue. > > > > > > > > > > > > This became the standard response to all questions about > > mantras > > > > and > > > > > > whether or not one was doing TM correctly. > > > > > > > > > > > > So, the geniuses, as you so cleverly call them, who > claimed > > you > > > > never > > > > > > meditated correctly probably needed to write to Mahesh and > > ask > > > > about > > > > > > their own meditation! > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" > > > > <shempmcgurk@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > > > > > > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe you're doing it wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good one! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I meant that as a response to Judy rather than Rick's > > > > wife...I > > > > > > hope > > > > > > > > that came across. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [snipped the rest] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
