--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > I think that's pretty much what he's saying, isn't > > it? Why does his use of the term "non-zero probability" > > mean he's not a deep thinker? He just means, if you > > believe in God, miracles are no longer impossible > > because God can break the rules. > > There's a 100% probability when God chooses to do something. Assigning "odds" to the > Supreme Beling's decisions is, well, silly. "Non-zero" implies that there's a chance for it to > happen without God's intervention. By most working definitions, that wouldn't be a > genuine miracle anyway.
Oh, I don't think he's assigning odds to the Supreme Being's decisions, I think he means "non-zero probability" that human beans will witness one of God's interventions. It's the odds from *our* perspective, not from God's, in other words. He's not suggesting there could be a miracle *without* God's intervention. > > > > http://www.salon.com/books/int/2006/08/07/collins/index.html > > > > BTW: I'm playing, er, devil's advocate here. I'm > > an active disbeliever in the tenets of the faith he > > embraces. I just find the reasoning of scientists > > who are not atheists interesting. > > I find the reasoning of an atheistic scientist to be an oxymoron. It's one thing to say you > "have Faith" about something, and another to pose as a scientist and claim certainty about > it not existing. Agnosticism is the scientific method on a philosophical level. Atheism is > just another religion from a scientific perspective. That's true. So let's say I'm interested in how scientists resolve their agnosticism in favor of God's existence. (I don't find the reasoning of those who lean in the opposite direction all that interesting; usually it's sadly uninformed about the metaphysical possibilities. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
