--- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
... 
> On the other hand, I agree with Shiva Ma's point that if you're
practicing
> MMY's program as taught, nothing added or deleted, 

I think practicing PURE TM may get a bit complex for someone who has
practiced a lot of other stuff. I suggest this as a possibility, not a
fact. 

For example, Rick, as i understand it, you practice the mechanics of
TM, but with an Amma mantra. After some years of doing that, if
(hypothetically) you were in the domes promising to only do TM, your
intent I am sure would be pure to do so. But your mind is used to the
Amma mantra. Surely, that would arise as a thought. A charming one. I
suspect a subtle "conflict" or at least diversion might arise as
awareness takes TM mantra, then Amma mantra comes. I know Amma mantra
would be "just like any other thought". But I sense things would get
muddled. So it may not be PURE TM -- even if you intended such. 

Of course an separate issues is -- does it matter, if you are
transcending. My view is no, but if its not pure TM, I understand a
POV (TMO's) that PURE TM is what is desired in the domes.

And flying can get pretty wild. All sorts of stuff emerges. i can
envision a quite wierd but funny scene as persons of different
extra-curricula spiritual activities -- cluster and or "face" off
other groups, packs of one group or another like in pro bike races .. 
And the mental (sub)vocal stuff emerging -- from the chanters and
bhajanees. Think about it. it could be quite the zoo, Perhaps a
wonderful zoo. And something that should occur somewhere sometime.
However, I GET IT, that the TMO does not want that in the DOMES.


>you should be allowed to
> practice it in the dome. 

This is a recurring POV that implies an entitlement. (Though your
words may be just casual use and not explicitly intending such an
implication.) Participating in the domes is NOT an entitlement. And
its certainly not some universal entitlment of Nature. Its the
activity of a  private venture / club / school.  As many acknowledge,
the owners of the "club" can set any qualifications and requirements
they want (as long as they are not racial, gender, etc. discriminatory).

What intrigues me is the large sense of entitlement that many appear
to have. Its sort of like me saying, "I really should be permitted to
attend Harvard, because I can really make a big contribution to the
acadmetics and culture there (unsupported assertion). And its the 
pinnacle of academic activity in the US and World. I DESERVE to take
part in it. Its my birthright!"  

Of course the above Harvard claim is silly. However, it appears
parallel to a lot of those (whiners?) who act as  if participating in
the domes is an entitlement.

>Anything outside of that is your personal business
> and I think MUM shoots itself in the foot by concerning itself with
that. 

We can all backseat drive MUM, the TMO and MMY's plans. But thats all
it is -- backseat driving, armchair quarterbacking, etc. Maybe they
(note the "they" not "we" -- we are not longer the "movement")  are
shooting themselves in the foot. Thats what freedom of choice is all
about. To be able to do wild and crazy things we think are useful
WITHOUT having to get permission from others or society or the gov't.
The TMO may seem crazy to you, but maybe they are onto something you
don't get (probably not -- but "hey") and should be free to do their
wild and crazy things. 100 wild and crazy orgs will yield one or two
that are quite useful -- when "everyone" thought "huh?" back when they
were just a wild and crazy thing. 


> To
> whatever degree this policy has preserved the purity of the teaching (if
> there is such a thing), 

Which is up to the TMO to determine the purity of THEIR teaching.
"Purity of the teaching" is not a universal force of Nature -- though
many act as if it were. 

>it has harmed it and created bad feelings to a much
> greater degree. 

Perhaps. And that is a tradeoff the TMO had made. not really your
concern, IMO.

>But it's not my university, 

Yes.

>and if that's the way they want
> to operate, it's their choice. 

Yes.

>That too is well and wisely put.

Yes.

So why dwell on it all?



Yes.








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