--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
<shempmcgurk@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> > <shempmcgurk@> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
<jstein@> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> > > <salsunshine@> 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Judy, are you advocating banning ultrasound?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > No, I'm advocating not letting women use it to
> > > > > > selectively abort females (in other words, I'm
> > > > > > advocating not telling them what the ultrasound
> > > > > > reveals about the sex of the fetus).
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > ...and out of every 100 women who want to know the sex of 
> their 
> > > > > child, how many of those do you think your proposed law 
will 
> > > > prevent 
> > > > > from doing this?
> > > > 
> > > > I believe I answered this already, Shemp.  Are you
> > > > having memory problems?
> > > 
> > > She does this every time. Whenever she doesn't want to answer a 
> > > question or has her back up against the wall she either says
> > > she already answered the question or poses a question back at 
> > > you and demands that you answer that question first before she 
> > > answers your question.
> > 
> > No, Shemp, those are lies.  That's *your* tactic
> > when your back's up against the wall.
> 
> ...then prove me wrong.

How can I prove you wrong?  *You* know under what
circumstances I ask you a question or tell you
I've already answered it.  You'd have to *admit*
you were lying when you say I do that because
I don't want to answer or have my back up against
the wall.



> 
> Answer my "...out of 100 women..."question above.
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > > > >  That
> > > > > > doesn't change your point, just wanted to make
> > > > > > sure mine was clear.  Ultrasound is an important
> > > > > > tool for other reasons.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >   Because if so, then 
> > > > > > > you've got a whole new set of problems, which is also 
> > > happening 
> > > > > in 
> > > > > > > China for those women who didn't find out the sex of 
> their 
> > > > child,
> > > > > > > (or couldn't get an abortion) and then simply abandon 
> the 
> > > kids 
> > > > > in 
> > > > > > > droves--to the tune of over a million a  year.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Abandon the female kids, I assume you mean, right?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Like I said, it's a complex problem.  This just adds
> > > > > > another layer of complexity.  I don't think the
> > > > > > solution is to continue to allow women to abort
> > > > > > females selectively, do you?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Do you have any ideas for a better solution?  This
> > > > > > is the least-bad one I've heard (Lawson suggested
> > > > > > it initially), given the overall situation in China.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Sal
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Aug 12, 2006, at 10:42 AM, authfriend wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > It would certainly *reduce* it.  Abortions can be
> > > > > > > > done in back alleys with coathangers by unlicensed
> > > > > > > > practitioners.  You can't do an ultrasound without
> > > > > > > > an office, an expensive piece of equipment, and
> > > > > > > > someone trained to run the equipment and interpret
> > > > > > > > the results.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Of course, you can't stop practitioners from
> > > > > > > > whispering in their patients' ears.  But if you find
> > > > > > > > that certain practitioners are aborting a high
> > > > > > > > percentage of female fetuses after administering an
> > > > > > > > ultrasound--or even if you found a high percentage
> > > > > > > > of pregnant women who did not carry the child to
> > > > > > > > term after an ultrasound (i.e., they went to a back-
> > > > > > > > alley abortionist)--you could impose sanctions on
> > > > > > > > the ultrasound practitioners.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>






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