--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> --- "Bill (William)Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > --- In [email protected], Robert Gimbel
> > <babajii_99@> 
> > wrote:
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> > > Maharishi Maheshi Yogi's life work;
> > >   Has culminated in this theory,
> > >   It's called 'The Maharishi Effect'.
> > >   It says;
> > >   That TM meditators, have an effect;
> > >   When in transendental deep meditation-
> > >    That effects the rest of the population;
> > >   (Yes, I know this sounds absurd)
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> > 
> > Robert, interesting theories and given that these
> > theories are the 
> > culmination of MMY's life work.  Is it safe to say
> > Fairfield itself 
> > being the home of the TM movement, the univeristy
> > and so many Tm 
> > meditators is a community in a state of bliss. Does
> > Fairfield enjoy a 
> > 0% crime rate. 0 % domestic disputes and a 0%
> > incidence of the 
> > various other types of social problems that plague
> > other communities 
> > with a fraction of the population of meditators.
> > 
> > Yes Robert to use your own words this does sound
> > absurd.
> > 
> > If MMY can bring peace to a community with (I think
> > I saw a claim of 
> > 1% of the population meditating). Then given
> > Fairfields pop. of a 
> > mere 10,000 people there must be zero reportable
> > incidences in your 
> > community with such a large population of TM
> > meditators,,,how could 
> > it possibly be anything but,,,it is afterall a
> > culmination of MMY's 
> > life work. 
> > 
> > Does Fairfield have a zero percent crime rate,,,oh
> > hell lets just say 
> > a zero percent VIOLENT crime rate???
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> The ME is something I'd love to believe in: the field
> effects of consciousness. However the empirical
> evidence (regardless of what John H. and Bevan say)
> show that this effect, if it can be measured at all,
> is extremely weak. Another rather bizarre phenomenon
> is that it doesn't appear to work in Fairfield! That
> in itself is enough to argue that the theory has to be
> reworked. Metaphoric, post hoc explanations (e.g., the
> washing machine effect--please!) reveal that the ME as
> it stands now is just cult "science".

I can't believe that so many people have not observed this in their 
personal experience.
Haven't you ever just meditated somewhere, where it has been busy, 
and or noisy, and noticed that as you meditate and allow yourself to 
get deeper, despite the outside noise, didn't you ever notice, that 
everything around you- just seems to calm down.
I can meditate anywhere, and produce that effect. It just happens.
Yes we are all connected on the level of consciousness.
Birds, bees, trees, and humans.
And when you transcend and experience you own being;
This has a calming healing effect on the whole.
Now, as I was saying in a previous post;
As you get more familiar with maintaining pure consciousness;
Like we do in the siddhi practice;
Then you might want to allow your attention to go to an area;
Which feels disturbed, or hollow, or empty?
And just allow yourself to hold pure consciousness in your awareness;
While also allowing your awareness to hold that which needs healing.
And hold the beingness and the other vibration;
Until you feel the other vibration, shift.
This can be a form of prayer.
Just establishing yourself in pure peace of the transcendent.
And bring that peace through your awareness, to the disturbance;
Wherever the disturbance is felt: in the field of awareness/
As everything is (are) vibrations of consciousness;
So pure consciousness, purify's everything.
Whether pure or impure, anyone who is in the presence of enlivened
Pure consciousness is purified...
So, whether you can scientifically prove this is irrevelevant to me.
This is my experience.
Proof is like Pontius Pilot wanted of Jesus.
Sometimes, it just doesn't work that way.
Sometimes, no amount of proof, will prove anything;
To one who is blind to the truth.

Now, as far as the situation in Fairfield, I think a lot of that has 
to do with politics and different ego power plays, in the town and in 
the meditator community itself.
I also believe that Fairfield has attracted to it, many people with 
some 'heavy karma' to dissolve; and that Fairfield, Iowa, is just a 
strange, dusty old midwest town, with a failed university, in the 
past, Parsons college, and just that we got a good deal on it;
And that's where it all ended up...
Lot's of Karma there for sure...
And any group of people can surely be called a 'cult'
Like the Roman Catholic 'cult'.
Same thing...
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