--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" <jyouells@> > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > <snip> > > > Again, which state? And, while perhaps I misremember the original > > > letter, my recollection is that Kaplan reported MMY as > > > saying "there is no evidence that what you say would > > > happen would happen." Kaplan took this to be referring > > > to the ME. I took it to be referring to financial support > > > from a grateful world... > <snip> > > > > "This version of my story really starts about three years ago. I > > was sitting with Maharishi privately, because at the time I had an > > open invitation to come to Vlodrop and sit with Mahesh whenever I > > wanted to. At that time I knew that Mahesh had many tens of > > millions of dollars, the money he needed to create a 10,000 group. > > He was talking about building big buildings, buying airlines, etc. > > etc. I said, Maharishi, since you have the money and supposedly > > you have enough pundits, why don't you create a 10,000 group in > > India and then the world will experience peace and the TM movement > > will gain great support of the laws of nature and our other > > activities will work out. Mahesh looked at me like I was crazy and > > said "Earl, if we created the group then we don't know if it would > > create world peace or not. We would have to have the group and > > then see what the effect it has." > > > > Earl Kaplans Letter 04/16/2004 > > > > Both Earl and Maharishi refer to creating world peace not wether > > the the world would support it finacially after the fact. > > In that version of the letter. There has apparently > been more than one, as reported here; supposedly > a draft got into circulation before Kaplan thought > it was ready. Above Lawson refers to "the original > version." Does he mean the draft, the first version > that was circulated? > > If so, and if the quote Lawson remembers is accurate, > Kaplan may have "revised" it in the later version to > make what *he* understood MMY to be saying more explicit. > > Editorial analysis: > > The version you quote seems incomplete somehow. It's > not clear why MMY would make such a statement and > consider the matter closed. The natural response > would be, "So why not create the group and see what > happens?" But that question isn't asked. > > In the version Lawson cites, MMY's comment seems to > complete the exchange, in the context of the various > money-making endeavors they were talking about. Kaplan > suggests that instead of doing all this other stuff to > support the movement, MMY should create the pundit group, > and that in itself will be all that is needed to keep the > movement going indefinitely because *everybody* would > then support the movement. > > But, in Lawson's verison, MMY responds that there's no > evidence it would have that effect, i.e., that everyone > would support the movement, implying that the TMO needs > to establish solid financial foundation first before > blowing the movement's existing resources on > establishing the group. Once that's accomplished, > then the group can be established and it won't matter > whether anyone else supports the movement. > > Obviously we'd need to find the "original" draft version > and see if Lawson's memory of how MMY is quoted is > accurate. But if it is, that version seems to me to > make more sense just in terms of the conversation > itself. It would also be consistent with everything > else MMY has been doing and saying. > > One other point: at the time of this conversation, > there had been several large-scale tests of the > Maharishi Effect, with published studies of the > purportedly positive results (in particular the > Jerusalem and D.C. gatherings). MMY clearly felt > the ME had been documented (whether or not it had > been), but there wasn't the outpouring of support > from the world that he had initially expected. > > So in that context as well, the quote Lawson remembers > makes more sense: from MMY's perspective, there *was* > evidence that the ME worked, but there was no evidence > that the world would recognize it and decide to support > the movement. >
I probably have the original version that was posted here. I'll look. My recollection is that the implication of that version is the same. But I'll check to see if I have it. Or it's in the archive of this group. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
