--- In [email protected], Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> On Aug 22, 2006, at 5:00 PM, new.morning wrote:
> 
> > That gets to my primary point. How many are being forcefully 
ejected
> > from the domes?
> 
> So far, I've only heard of one, but even that is too many.  He 
> apparently wasn't doing anything except meditating.
> 
> > How many are being rejected. My impression is that its
> > very few. And in some, if not most cases, it kind of makes sense -
-
> > Shivama being a good example, IMO.
> 
> I didn't find anything threatening in her letter--did you?
> >
> >> Doesn't any of that bother you?
> >
> > If only a handful are being forcefully ejected from the domes or
> > rejected, and for those that are there is some pretty extreme
> > circumstances behind it, I am not heavily bothered. Thats why I 
asked,
> > how frequent are these rejections?
> >
> >
> > I thought the days of people laying
> >> guilt trips on others, while also telling them to ignore their 
own
> >> better judgment, were over.
> >
> > Agreed. Per above, heavy handed recruiting / guilt-trips are so 
80's.
> > Quite passe.
> >
> >> the fact that they are asking for SS #s (or so I understood) is
> >> troubling
> >
> > As judy has pointed out, many ask for it. I routinely refuse if 
its
> > irrelevant. Or if that stops my application, I put in 
a "creative" one.
> >
> And Judy's argument is simply an apologia.

Well, no, actually it was an attempt to bring a
little rationality to your rampant paranoia.

  I have not found that
> many ask for it at all--in fact, outside of the TMO, I can't think 
> of any private organization that has, and definitely not with any 
> regularity.  Apart from someone who said they needed it when I was 
> thinking of getting a satellite dish, nobody in the last 10 years 
> (I would guess) has asked me for it. (I declined on the SD.)

I had to supply it to my lawyer when I purchased a
condo recently; the town requires it to transfer the
deed.  And as I noted, a physician I went to for a
flu shot asked for it as well.  It's still fairly
common.

> And identity theft is really not the issue,  as Judy knows,
> that's just a diversionary tactic she is using--intimidation is.

Sal, you're losing it.  I never suggested the TMO
was collecting SS#s so it could commit identity
theft.  How the heck did you get that idea??

I mentioned identity theft simply to point out that
before identity theft became a threat, SS#s were
routinely used for identification.

What I don't get is why you think asking for your
SS# would be *intimidating*.  What is it you would
be intimidated *about*?  What would the implied
threat be?

For the record, if I had to give them my SS# to
go on a course these days, I wouldn't do it, even
if it meant I couldn't go.  I don't trust them to
keep those records secure from people who might
use them for identity theft.




 I felt the same 
> way years back when I routinely gave it to them.
> 
> Sal
>






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