--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> " presence in the Dome would be "disruptive". 
> > > Disruptive? "
> 
> What is disrupted is Milieu Control.  I'm sure everyone here is 
hip to
> that Lifton concept. http://www.freeminds.org/psych/lifton.htm
> 
> Since so many quality people have bailed on letting them work their
> mojo, it seems like they are just acting out of habit.  The 
movement
> seems to lack the ability to create a new organization that 
respects
> mature individuals with enough spiritual and life experience to 
decide
> things for themselves. It worked better when everyone was in their
> 20's and less self-assured.  From the outside it is fascinating to 
see
> them try to cast the same old spells their a broken wands.
> 
> I wonder if Lifton has studied the oppositional reflex that must 
exist
> even in devoted members, who are still close to the organization.  
It
> seems as if the innocence is so long gone that the movement's words
> would have a completely different effect by this time.
> 
> When I talk with people who still do the program about the 
movement,
> there is so much eye-rolling that it makes me wonder who is more
> turned off to the "teaching".  My guess is that although FFL is a
> small group who are willing to speak up, the eclectic lifestyle and
> practices represented here is more reflective of the majority of
> people still involved with TM than the old-school hardline.  I meet
> people who keep their feelings and practices to themselves for 
fear of
> being cut out of courses.  I would love to know the numbers on both
> these sides.
> 

I also think it comes down nowadays to a simple cost/benefit 
analysis, like anything else. Is there enough benefit that I will 
receive by involving myself with this organization vs. the cost, 
monetary or otherwise, of associating with the organization?

My affinity for the TMO is much more about the organizational 
dynamics than whether I choose to involve myself in alternative  
spiritual esoterica.

I really appreciate the 'Vedic template' that Maharishi has been 
patiently been putting in place for so many years, and I have found 
the TM techniques exceptionally effective at all levels. However the 
TMO has been for me a victim of its own success. The more I achieve 
the less need I have for the organization, which I think is the way 
it is supposed to be- except for those whose dharma it is to work 
within the organization.

Having said that, I am extremely grateful to those on this current 
course. It is having a palpable effect even as far away as where I 
call home, northern California. My partner and I have been noticing 
among other things how the quality of our dreams has changed since 
the course began. I also notice the effect of the course during my 
meditation. Just a livelier time, all around.





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