It's a valid question as to what constitutes a mistake. From a cosmic perspective, sure, there are no mistakes and the universe is unfolding as it should. That's true for everyone, enlightened or not. There's nothing to fix, nothing wrong with anything. All is according to natural law. Killing several tens of thousands of Iraquis or destroying the world in a nuclear war or by global warming, or creating heaven on earth are all in harmony with cosmic eveolution and natural law. The only difference between the enlightened and unenlightened is that the former know it.
At the same time, this would mean there's no difference between MMY and anyone else in this regard. The "mistakes" you or I make are just as much "non-mistakes" in the grand scheme of things as MMY's, and MMY is no more exempt from making those "non-mistakes" than we are. I guess if you look at stated outcomes, actions undertaken, and results, you could decide if you thought it was a mistake. For exampe: Believing that thousands of adults with jobs and families and responsibilities are going to drop everything and go on a course to "save the world" one more time after you have systematically destroyed your organization's credibility would be a mistake. There are many more such examples that could be listed--- but we don't like to dwell on these things. ;) Cheers, HD --- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" > > <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" > > <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], hermandan0 > > <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > <snip> > > > > > To paraphrase someone I respect a lot in a > > discussion > > about "guru > > > > > infallibility"--some people say Maharishi > > doesn't make > > mistakes. > > > > > Nonesense. If you you are in the relative > > there are mistakes. > > He makes > > > > > a master's mistakes, that's all. > > > > > > > > > > With all the implications arising from that! > > > > > > > > Well put! > > > > > > > > > > When MMY talks about making "no mistakes," he's > > talking about > > doing things that slow > > > your evolution towards enlightenment. Once you > > reach CC you make > > no more mistakes. > > > That doesn't mean the person in CC can't miss the > > baseball when > > he/she swings at it. > > > > > > Also, as you progress beyond CC, your influence > > and perception of > > Self starts to expand > > > and "make no mistakes" takes on a broader and > > broader > > significance, but STILL in the > > > context of evolution towards enlightenment... > > > > > > ...and you STILL might miss that baseball, even in > > UC. > > > > > About making mistakes, Like Peter asks, 'what's a > > mistake?'. > > > > The reason Maharishi has said that enlightened souls > > don't make > > mistakes, is that from the perspective of an > > enlightened person, > > there are no mistakes. There is only the eternal > > ever changing > > relative existence, supported by Reality, of which > > we as enlightened > > individuals gracefully are. > > > > From the perspective of unenlightened individuals, > > mistakes are > > abundant, by definition, and so even if they are > > looking at an > > enlightened person, they will see mistakes. > > > > So when Maharishi says the enlightened don't make > > mistakes, he is > > simply clarifying the definition of enlightenment, > > the Reality of > > enlightenment, and not as many have supposed, > > justifying his actions > > to the unenlightened. > > I think you can see it as part of the "useful fiction" > MMY created in developing a waking state model of > Realization. We make lots of mistakes in waking state. > And I think, in waking state, a mistake is an action > that produces a result that we don't like. So we say, > "I made a mistake." It is interesting to note that all > mistakes are retrospective. They arise from > counter-factual thinking: "I did that, but I should > have done this." Although the option of "this" only > arises after having done "that." And when we did > "that" it was not a mistake because there was no > "this" as a behavioral option. "This" arises only > after the result of the action is experienced. "This" > is a fantasy of what we should have done when "that" > doesn't work out to our liking. It can tie the mind up > in knots. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
