Thanks Hanuman for your response. I'm glad to hear you have been reading 'Kathy's Story'. Jai Guru Dev
--- In [email protected], t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "Paul Mason" <premanandpaul@> > wrote: > > > > I obtained a copy of these satsangs more than thirty years ago, and > > have not posted quotations of Guru Dev speaking on this subject. > > However, Frank Lotz seemed to be parading his devotion to his 'Guru- > > jie' so I responded by doing a little Hindi translation work. > > So, you can thank Frank. > > Thanks Frank. > I know Frank from past TM years, and if that helps you, can assure > you, that he won't harm you, or send you a letter bomb. He easily gets > heated, always was so. He has done fist fights when provoked, so it > may not be a good idea to stand in front of his house and ring the > bell, and say 'Fuck Maha..'. ;-) > I myself was threatened here not too long ago by one of our more > outspoken members here with the words: 'Fuck you and die' and I am > still very much alive ;-) > > And he is not as closed minded as you would think. For example he also > visited Mother Meera here, something real TB TMers wouldn't do. And he > is a really, really good cook. > So thank you also Paul. I just read your story of Kathy 2005 on your > web, really amazing. So thanks Paul for all the interesting stuff. But > I now also understand why MMY doesn't want to publish all of it. He > simply doesn't agree with some of it. > > People seem to think that aligning ones thinking with the master, like > in classical Guru/disciple devotion means that he should copy him, and > do exactly the same things he did. I disagree. Simply copying a person > in his outward acts or opinions is not a great achievement. > Understanding his actions and desires was for MMY a *means* to achieve > an inner alignment, which served as a channel for the transmission of > the inner *essence*. Once this is achieved, there is no need to copy > the master, rather everyone must live his own enlightenment. It is my > understanding, that MMY had visions of GD while moving in the south, > around 1955, and consequently similar hints at Kanyakumari and > Guruvayur, which gave rise to him teaching. While in actual physical > body GD never asked MMY to teach, or even would have disallowed him to > be a Guru (he obviously allowed him to lecture in his presence, as > seen on films), he may have done so in visions. You may believe in it > or not, but for MMY that must have been the reason and indication to > start teaching. > > All this 'happened'. MMY for some reason had this disposition, and we, > as followers fell for it, and it subsequently changed our lives, more > or less. For my part I am glad he did. History is full of great people > who broke rules. Does it mean they parted from the tradition at a > whole? Did Luther part from Christianity when he broke the rules of > Catholicism? I know that all traditions change all the time. Even the > current Shankaracharya of Kanchi is accused to break the rules of his > former Shankaracharya, who like GD was a great saint, but also very rigid. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
