'From learned men or mahatmas become compliant with the Veda Shastras, understanding the relationship of one's own duty [with the dharma of others]. If you do not automatically accept the Veda Shastra enquire from them [learned men or mahatmas] the way for yourself then right away they can sift [the scriptures]. - The neighbour puts the head in the drain -' [Guru Dev quoted in 'Amrit Kana']
Please Michael, Don't try and raise an argument with me about caste system, it's pointless and leads nowhere. --- In [email protected], t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "Paul Mason" <premanandpaul@> > wrote: > > > > Try the Shastras? > > > > --- In [email protected], t3rinity <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Paul Mason" <premanandpaul@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Guru Dev on Varnas (castes) > > > > > > > > http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/upadesh.htm#varnoM > > > > > > "Wherever happiness is to be, there nobody is brahmana, is not > > > kshatriya, is not vaishya, is not shudra. In Paramatma there is no > > > difference in anyone, the difference then is in business." > > > > > > Okay, very nice quotes. In fact it says in quintessence, that the > > > important thing is mukti and not varna. But it does not define, who a > > > Brahmana is. > > Like: The knower of Brahman is Brahman? > As I pointed out, Ganapathy Muni and Kapali Shastri think that the > Varna system was not hereditary. I pointed out some examples before in > the other thread. For example, in the Vedas their were brahmanas etc. > But the word used for them was not jati, which is caste in classical > Sanskrit. The Veda uses varna, which is the psychological flavour. > There is no indication at all in the Vedas, that it was hereditary. > > My argument was that the scriptures contradict themselves. You said > that the guru clarifies. I asked you, were does GD define Brahmana. > Now you go back to scripture. > > You say: Guru Dev just spoke shastra > I say: Shastra gives contradictory statements. > You say: GD clarifies > I ask: were he defines Brahmana > You say:Try Shastras > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
