> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Isn't this forum open to all for public discussion? > > > > Yet you go out of your frame constantly. Saying: > > > > 'Fuck off and die' claiming this to be just a nice > > > > american idiom. > > > > > > Contrary to what Judy told you, it really *is* a > > > fairly innocuous American idiom. > > > > Working on Wall St. in New York, in offices filled > with well-educated stockbrokers, traders, and pro- > grammers, I would estimate that I heard this phrase > a dozen times a day. That's where I developed a > liking for it (along with "Go figure."). It conveys > the idea of "go away and stop wasting my time and > yours" better than almost any other, and with a > remarkable economy of language. In the offices > I worked in (Citibank and Salomon Brothers), many > people turned it into an acronym (FOAD) and wrote > it out on little signs so that they could hold up > the sign and tell someone to go away without even > having to pause their phone conversations to do so. :-) > Having spent time in New York recently with my children; and having grown up on the East Coast in Philly; I am well aware of the East Coast mentality, which is perfectly described in this so-called "American Idiom". This would be especially intense in the financial district, where people are quite possessed with greed, fear and lust; and have little time for anything else; The many cocaine addicts there, also fuel this attitude.. I don't like this attitude and never have, which is why it was such a relief for me, when I first moved to Fairfield, in the 70's, and found farmers on tractors waving to me, "Good Morning". New York is so overwhelming; an over-load to most people's sensibility of stimulation; And really people have little time, except to do, what is right in from of them, running at a pace that is not natural. The arrogant attitude is contagious there, and one seems to take it on, as a survival technique. I would say though, since the shock of 9/11, the city has been humbled, and this attitude is not quite as intense and it used to be. And btw, I saw many people meditating on the subway- good sign... R.G.
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