--- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 9/3/06 10:23 PM, curtisdeltablues at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >> > Thanks for posting this, I would have missed it.  I am so happy
that
> >> > this perspective is in the mainstream media and on a group like
this.
> >> >  It speaks well for the open mindedness of both.  I think at
the end
> >> > of the article they misjudged the number of people who have dropped
> >> > the belief in any of the recently popular God ideas on earth.  I am
> >> > not a member of the American Atheists which they use as the low
number
> >> > of people who think this way.  I can say that being an outspoken,
> >> > positive atheist makes me a safe person for some people to express
> >> > their spiritual doubts to.  I have so often been pulled aside
when I
> >> > have expressed my lack of belief by someone who feels bullied by
> >> > believers to tow the party line.  I know that faith and mystical
> >> > experience is cherished by many here on this group.  I greatly
> >> > appreciate that my lack of valuing these experiences and beliefs is
> >> > accepted by most of the people I communicate with here.  We all
have
> >> > our own reasons for including and excluding beliefs.  Nobody
believes
> >> > everything.  We are all on that same human mission to discover the
> >> > meaning for our own lives.  That is a much greater commonality than
> >> > whatever specifics each of us has come up with so far.  I consider
> >> > myself and everyone here a work in progress.  I enjoy hearing about
> >> > and sharing what we are noticing along the way.  This post made me
> >> > feel really glad I check in here, thanks. Kumbaya baby.  Thanks
purushaz.
> >> > 
> 
> I wish I had time to get into a serious discussion with you about this.
> Maybe some time in person. But here¹s my take in a nutshell.
Essentially,
> these guys are objecting to the fanaticism that results from belief
> unsupported by experience. I very much believe in God, but I think
belief
> without substantiating experience usually does more harm than good. It¹s
> still rare as a percentage of the world¹s population, but many have
attained
> that level of experience, including some friends of mine. These
people exist
> at the opposite end of the spectrum from religious fanatics, have a
> wonderful influence on the world around them, and would charm the
socks off
> Dawkins and Harris. If guys like that (and yourself as well) could spend
> enough face time with the kind of people I¹m talking about, they would
> probably end up rethinking their perspective.


When you do this, I hope you trot out people more substantial than
Jim, Tom and Rory. :)








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