--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Funny how Barry's "Trust your own experience" mantra > > is so easily discarded when it comes to someone's > > experience of TM. > > Funny how the "TM is the best technique of meditation > in the world" mantra seems to spring so easily to the > lips of those who have never in their lives learned > another.
Funny how assiduously Barry avoids addressing the various glaring inconsistencies in Barry's Rules and does his level best to change the subject. Also funny how he doesn't seem to even *see* material that doesn't quite fit with Barry's Rules. In the post he's responding to, I explicitly addressed the quick-change-the-subject objection he raises above: What's virtually impossible to explain is why one might conclude on the basis of one's own experience, with no or minimal experience of other techniques, that TM is "the best" to someone who hasn't had the "Aha!" experience. I've used a similar analogy to Jim's of walking vs. crawling: if you know how to ride a bicycle, it really doesn't make sense to try other methods of riding a bicycle, such as propelling it with your feet on the ground, or running alongside it, then leaping on and resting your feet on the pedals while it coasts. It's just self-evident that turning the pedals with your feet is the most effective way to get somewhere on a bicycle; there's simply no need to try other methods. But with TM, this is a *subjective* experience of how the mind works (not of mental content but rather the mechanics of the thinking process), just as it becomes self-evident that turning the pedals makes the wheels turn and propels the bicycle forward--but entirely inside your own head, where you can't demonstrate it to anybody else. > Oh, excuse me...except something they read in a book > and tried once or twice *before* they learned TM, Only one of the techniques I tried did I read in a book (Benson's technique, which Benson himself insists can be learned from a book). Also tried some other stuff (not from a book) *after* learning TM. The results were part of the experiential data that ultimately led to my "Aha!" realization about TM. > after which they mysteriously became convinced that > to try anything else would be beneath them. Most definitely "mysterious" to those who have not had the same experience, as I already pointed out. No...not > a bit of brainwashing here, no. :-) Right, not a bit here, no (at least not in *my* post). And we're back to the point Barry was so desperately trying to distract attention from: Funny how Barry's "Trust your own experience" mantra is so easily discarded when it comes to someone's experience of TM. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
