--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Paul Mason" > <premanandpaul@> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 29th September 1967 'The Frost Programme' included an > > > > interview with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi at London Airport. > > > > During the chat the topic of mantras came up. His answer > > > > would give the listener the idea that the TM movement > > > > used a palette of 'thousands' of mantras, which, if it were > > > > not true, would amount to false advertising. > > > > > > > > Frost - Is that the same sound that you give to each person? > > > > MMY - No, each person gets different but we don't have as > > > > many sounds > > > > as we have men in the world. So they are grouped together. > > > > Frost - How many sounds are there? > > > > MMY - Oh there are lots of sounds. > > > > Frost - I mean hundreds or thousands or ...? > > > > MMY - You could say thousands. > > > > > > I look forward to discussion of this topic among > > > the TM TBs, especially the...uh..."creative" ways > > > they'll come up with to deny that Maharishi was lying. > > > > > > It's a fascinating phenomenon, one that I saw in the > > > Rama trip as well. He'd go on some television show > > > like Larry King and look into the camera and lie > > > through his teeth about something, like what he'd > > > said about himself in the past or what he'd told his > > > students to do. *All* of the students watching would > > > know from their own personal experience that he was > > > lying, but some would just "not hear it," and blot > > > it out and then later deny that he'd said it, and > > > others would say things like, "Well, the people in > > > the media are just not as evolved as we are, so it's > > > Ok to lie to them," and so on and so on. > > > > > > It always struck me at the time as fascinating, > > > partly because I'd already seen so much of this same > > > phenomenon earlier, during in my time in the TMO. I > > > guess this stuff happens in every spiritual movement > > > -- seekers gazing at the teacher and never really > > > seeing what he does and says, only what they want > > > to see and hear... > > > > > > So, I have some idea of why Paul cares, though he won't > > admit it. I also have some idea > > why YOU care, though you won't admit it. > > > > Why should *I* care? > > > There is absolutely no reason at all why you should > care whether Maharishi has no problem with telling > deliberate lies. > > Unless, of course, you count the fact that you spend > a great deal of your life -- hours a day, every day -- > defending what he's told you as accurate and the truth. > > It's your call, of course. However, if you were serious > about asking why you should care, I refer you to the > following citations, posted here over the last year > by a noted expert on liars and lying: > >
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