(snip) > > Thanks to both of you. Since reading Paul's post re Sattyanand and > > Guru Dev's death, I have been thinking that the only point in a > > discussion group with a supposed spiritual bent is to help one > > another "advance" -- to share experiences, methods, teachings. It's > > so easy to get sucked into sectarianism and fundamentalism and closed- > > minded bickering. -- I don't think it matters which/whose tradition > > what comes from; it's all valuable to someone, sometime, somewhere. > > > > The secrecy thing that shrouds TM is such reactionary and petty > > separatism doesn't help anyone. It breeds jealousy, egoism, paranoia > > and a general drag on evolution. > > > > Again, thanks to you (and many others) -- there is still hope. > > > > Such things only matter if you worry about them. I can't even remember how to say my > mantra out loud without a lot of thought, so its not an issue for me.
This is a good point; The perfect use of the mantra: that it becomes so effortless; That just the 'intention' to meditate begins the process... No trying to remember anything; Just completely in the moment; With the mere intention, begins transcendence... R.G. > > > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > >>>> 'Mayi Amma is hundreds of years old.. She used towalk right > > > > >>>> into the sea > > > > >>>> and stay underwater at the sea bed years onend.. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> The gospel according to t3rinity. > > > > >> > > > > >> Makes me wonder...when did stuff like this start being gospel > > > > >> and stop being fairy tales? > > > > > > > > > > My experience is that the more real, strong, vibrant > > > > > and consistent spiritual experiences that people are > > > > > having in a spiritual group, the *less* interest there > > > > > is in the group with these sorts of things. And the > > > > > fewer spiritual experiences people are having on a > > > > > daily basis, the more interest there is in such things. > > > > > > > > Probably true. But I'm not interested in either one, so > > > > I wonder where that leaves me? :) It's not that I'm not > > > > interested in the spiritual experiences (so-called) I'm > > > > just not interested in chattering about it--seems kind > > > > of pointless. > > > > > > > > But others obviously are--so chatter away! :) > > > > > > Indeed, Sal. In fact, one of the distinctions made by > > > some traditions between different two basic "types" of > > > spiritual seekers is that one type is more interested > > > in discussing/studying the experiences of others and > > > and the other type is more interested/only interested > > > in having their own experiences. > > > > > > Within that (artificial) breakdown, I find it interesting > > > what type of experiences themselves different seekers > > > seem to be interested in and attracted to. Some seem to > > > be attracted to the more pragmatic types of experience, > > > and other seem to be more attracted to the more woo-woo, > > > very-possibly-fictional types of experience. I guess > > > it's the same distinction you see in mainstream religion; > > > some Christians feel drawn to Christ because of his > > > attitude towards the poor and the downtrodden, and > > > others can appreciate only the flashy stuff, the walking > > > on water and the miracles. > > > > > > Again, different strokes for different folks... > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/zAINmC/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
