Has anyone had a clear experience of ritam bhara pragya? I ask because I would love to hear about your experience. I've only had one clear experience of rhitam bhara pragya (RBP) and that was before I started TM. I only knew what it was several years later on TTC when MMY mentioned it and said that you "know everything" and I thought Yikes! I've had that before. One thing that was very clear during the experience was that everybody is always functioning from this level, but there is a "turning away" of awareness from this level of the intellect.
--- peterklutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think you misunderstand the question: stop and > start refer to the > boundaries of mind and intellect, respectively - not > their functional > status. > > Moreover, the problem is not how "normal" a state is > with reference to > the Universe/Cosmos in toto, but the discrepancy > between this state > and other states when moving between - especially in > short time - as > happens with correctly performed TM. > > Reading MMY's comments on the BG it's obvious that > intellectually > understanding higher states is required, lest > confusion should set in. > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "peterklutz" > <peterklutz@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > So, where does mind stop and intellect start? > Any hard criteria? > > > > Is that even a valid question? Looking at the > stuff that Fred's been > doiing, we know when > > "mind" stops: the thalamus reduces activity to the > point where weno > longer have (or are > > able to note/remember having) mental activity. > > > > Once thse feedback loops become "obvious" enough > that we can think > and note that we > > are thinking, then we have mind AND intellect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, has MMY indicated any "required" reading > (shortlist preferred) > > > to give the mind/intellect the stuff it needs to > completely > > > grasp/stabilize experiences TC/CC? > > > > > > > Not that I've heard of. How could there be with > TC? OR with CC for > that matter? > > > > By MMY's world-view, these are completely natural > states that occur > spontaneously > > without intellectual understanding. GC/UC/BC > involve growth beyond > merely being > > normal, so they might be another kettle of fish, > but if MMY is > correct about CC being our > > "normal" state, there shouldn't be any deliberate > intellectual stuff > required. > > > > Note that the reading he has people do is IN > Sanskrit, without > translation. > > > > > > Also note that "intellect" in the context of > UC/BC doesn't mean > "intellectual" as in > > "reasoning about" something anyway. And GC is > supposed to be > primarily an emotional > > thing, so that also doesn't require intellectual > understanding > although the ability to > > resolve emotional states is another example of > intellect > (descrimination), I think. > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
