--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Spraig, > > Your dismissive answer does not hide your ignorance about hypnosis. > TM researchers fixation on proving that the TM state is unique is part > of their marketing hype. Hypnosis researchers do not have the same > agenda, so they may not just focus on the variables TM researchers use > to prove their case that TM is extra special, super duper, and the > very bestest trance in the whole wide world, worth every dollar charged. > >
Cought. PHysiological researchers looking for consistent neurological correlates of hynosis hav exactly the same agenda: to find any such consistent neurological correlates. > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > Wellll... Short answer: there's no consistent physiological changes > > > found in hypnotic > > > > subjects while there is with TMers. > > > > > > I wonder if the hypnotic subjects you are talking about practiced it > > > as consistently as the TM group. What type of hypnotic technique was > > > used? As you may know, there are as many hypnotic techniques as there > > > are types of mediation. Calling one subject a hypnotic subject is > > > like using a generic meditator in place of a TM meditator. Perhaps > > > the TM form of self-hypnosis does show consistent physiological > > > changes. That doesn't prove that it is a different state, it may be a > > > subset of the broader trance phenomenon. > > > > > > MMY calls the TM induced states "higher states". I think this is > > > marketing hype with no evidence of "higher" anything in its practicers > > > with the exception of some who seem to have induced inflated > > > self-regard. > > > > > > I am glad there are people researching this stuff. There is a lot of > > > room for different points of view. I suspect that I chose my own view > > > after a more rigorous test of the uniqueness of TM states in the > > > movement than you have with hypnosis. If you were trained in > > > Ericksonian hypnosis you might change your mind. You have the choice > > > to study it, or not. > > > > > > > > > > Short answer: where's the research published by scientists that > shows consistent > > physiological correlates to hypnosis? > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
