--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <drpetersutphen@> > wrote: > > > > If you worked on National or International staff this > > > type of behavior was quite common. We posted alot > > > about it several years ago. My little adventure was > > > with National in DC when we were fixing-up the hotel > > > on Purusha and I was in charge of housekeeping. I was > > > in on the meeting when two people on national staff > > > tricked a vaccum cleaner salesman into lending us > > > about a dozen very high-end commercial vaccum cleaners > > > ($1000.00 each) for the weekend. They essentially told > > > him they were going to buy the vaccum cleaners but > > > they had absolutely no intention of doing so. We used > > > them for about 72 hours straight. They got very > > > trashed and banged-up and then on Monday he came to > > > collect his check and was told that we weren't > > > interested in buying them. I was livid but the two > > > National Staff guys told me to calm down. Real sleaze > > > bag ethics. The TMO, behaind the scenes is replete > > > with deception. And of course that grand daddy of them > > > all: THE PUNDIT PROJECTS!!! Not one f*cking cent has > > > gone towards bringing pundits to the US. Rationalize > > > and double speak all you want, but it an outright con > > > job orchestrated by MMY. > > > > > > TMO sleazy, or in some cases simply hardball business methods (not > a > > crime, and done by many businesses -- MMY was a very hard and > creative > > negotiator -- a postive trait in many businesses) is quite a > different > > thing from what TM / SIMS teachers were taught to do when > teaching. > > > > The latter is what I understand is the issue. Becasue MMY > negotiated > > hard for hotels and vegetables (some funny stories), and later some > > real deceit and scams occurred on the organizational / Int'l > levels, > > is not support for the assertion that SIMS teachers were > > systematically taught how to lie in their teaching intro courses. > > > > I tend to agree. While I too find much to fault the TMO about, I was > personally never lied to about TM or the TM-Sidhis, and they were > true to their word about my TM-Sidhis credit in 1979-80-- I worked > for the TMO for six months, was given the full CIC, worked another > six months for the TMO, and that was it. > > As for all the questions I could've asked about mantras, etc., my > first experience with TM and subsequent practice was rewarding > enough that I didn't concern myself with esoterica (e.g. how many > mantras are there? Where does the tradition come from?). I just > plain didn't care. After all a tradition, any tradition, is just a > long-term habit. > > As for the deceit and arrogance and stuff about the TMO, I always > stayed away from it once I was exposed to it. Something I think a > lot of the disenchanted ex teachers here didn't do was to take > responsibility for themselves when they became aware that either the > TMO or Maharishi was discovered to go against their ethics, values > or principles. > > I did, and so don't have to wallow in all of these recriminations > decades later.
I had a somewhat similar experience. Although I always thought the teaching was wonderful, almost from Day One I thought the way MMY ran the movement was quite questionable. So there was always a grain of salt there for me when it came to MMY announcing this or that plan. As a result, I was never devastated so much when even greater sleaze was revealed years later. > Even if I didn't understand the particular behavior, > I've always been intuitive enough so that if it 'smelled' bad, I > stayed away. > > I would suggest that instead of continuing to rehash these old > stories about how X said Y but did Z, it is far easier to admit our > mistakes, lack of insight, whatever, and...move on. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/