--- In [email protected], Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> And if you could own an electric car that 20 minute drive would not 
> contribute much if anything at all to pollution (it will generate some 
> heat).

The production of electricity to run the car produce pollution, as do
the transmission and distribution lines to get it to you (EMF, sight
pollution, etc.) as do the disposal of the massive batteries needed
for EVs. But overall, EVs produce less pollution than many cars.
Probably more than per capita mile of mass transit, when you include
in the huge pollution of building roads and highways. (Large 300-800
MW power plants have great economies of scale for cost of production,
and polltution control, relative to small, mobile generators, e.b. cars.)
 
> Capitalism may well turn out to be the biggest threat to humanity.

Thats quite a huge and illogigical leap. Capitalism will produce an
abundance of low-polluting cars, homes and technologies, IF it is
given correct price signals that incorporate all costs of fuels. If
gasoline, as well as fuels for power plants, included their full costs
for pollution --- and the costs for a highly concentrated, energy
society, and unreliable foreign sources -- probably around $3-4/gal,
then you would see a huge and rapid shift to low polluting cars at
60-100 mph, and low pollution homes, offices and industrial buildings
-- and the nergy that feeds them.

What is a huge threat to society is mercantilism, cronyism,
oligarchies of entrenchd powers, low-demoncractic societies
(especially those that pose as high democratic ones), corrupt lobbying
practices, corrupt campaign financing (both of which contribute to
your examples of bad social choices) -- and socialsm. Look at eastern
Europe, and Russia if you want to see the horrendous effect of
socialsim on pollution.

What are you suggesting or proposing as an alternative to capitalism?
Clearly not socialism given its horrid effect on the environment and
pollution. Worker-owned collectives? Perhaps. But they still need
large resources of funds to produce "big things" like an EV
manufacturing, distribution, and mantenance infrastructures. Capital
markets, in a true democratic society (far from wht the US is) are
quite efficient and equitable in raising such funds, aka capital.











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