> new.morning wrote: > > judy stein wrote: > > > new.morning wrote: > > > > "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > <snip> > > > > You must have forgotten my assertion > > > > that there is no such thing > > > > as "MMY/TMO style of enlightenment". > > > This just gets stranger and stranger. > > > Unless you are playing > > > sematically games, or simply don't get the > > > concept that MMY has > > > defined specific attributes of what > > > he means by enlightenemnt, UC > > > and BC. > > <snip> > <snip> > > <snip> > An issue here is the "label-centric" view of some, vs. my very > non-label view. As I have explained periodically, > from various angles, > over 2-3 years, I don't have much value for labels such as > "enlightnement".
i had the *Best Ever* scientifically recorded "tm-enlightenment" by an impartial sleep and dream lab at Luther College, Decorah Iowa. The study conducted by Dr. William Moorcroft PhD, Luther College and Dr. Jayne Gackenback PhD, University Nothern Iowa, and Dr. Stephen LaBerge PhD, Stanford University in 1987. And, in fact the abstract was submitted to International Sleep & Dream Symposium Oslo Norway. i am here to tell Mr. Jim Flanegin that there is a-, "MMY/TMO style of enlightenment". However if any of you people had "it"..,you would not want it!..period. In fact, do not take my word of it, contact the scientist that performed the research directly - Dr. Jayne Gackenbach PhD. Here is the link to her website.. http://www.spiritwatch.ca/psychologicalconhtm.htm Gackenbach, J., Moorecroft, W., Alexander, C. & LaBerge, S.(1987). "Consciousness" dur-ing sleep in a TM practitioner: Heartrate, respiration and eye movement. Paper pre-sented at the annual meeting of the Association for the Study of Dreams, Arlington,VA. Here is a copy of the e-mail to me from the scientist- Dr. Jayne Gackenbach > Subj: Re: Stephen J. Perinn/Perino > Date: 9/30/00 5:05:19 PM Central Daylight Time > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jayne Gackenbach) > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > .."the study you quote below is the oneon your results > - let me know how you are doing Jayne.." To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/