--- In [email protected], "Robert Gimbel" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  (Snip)
> "Oh yeah? You live in Israel?
> > 
> > You *were*, in fact, reacting in "self" defense.
> > 
> > You live nowhere near Israel. If it were nuked
> > off the face of the earth tomorrow nothing would 
> > happen to you. Your fears are completely without 
> > basis.
> > 
> > But you've chosen to *embrace* and *cling to*
> > those fears, to elevate them in your mind as if
> > they were noble. You've chosen to identify your 
> > self with a group of equally non-existent selves 
> > that you call "Jews," and to feel afraid any time 
> > any of them feels afraid. 
> > 
> > If that's the way you want to live, fine, but I 
> > think it's pretty sad.
> 
> I didn't say that I live in Israel;
> The deal is I was taking a bus from Seattle, back to Madison,
> Wisconsin, where I live now;
> And I met a Jewish fellow, and he happened to be a Viet Nam vet;
> And was from San Franscisco, and was just traveling around...





I always thought that this would be an interesting experiment: Park 
a car on the Berkley campus (I know it's not San Franscisco) with 
two bumperstickers on the back bumper: one, on the left, says "Vote 
for Bush/Cheney" and the one on the right says: "Blood for oil".

Set up a hidden video camera and see how long it takes before the 
car is vandalized by tolerant anti-violent liberals.






> So, he was saying, that he couldn't say those things in San
> Franscisco, about Nuking Iraq, because it was too liberal there.
> And this guy had a strong view, that if it was up to him, he would
> push the button in a second;
> In the meantime, a group of people had gathered at this bus 
station,
> In Billings, Montana, to discuss these issues; and it was an
> interesing discussion, had by all...
> Anyway, I think part of it is a genetic connection I feel;
> When my tribe, is scared to death- because rockets are falling from
> the sky;
> And because my father fought and killed Nazis in the war;
> And witnessed the aftermath of the holocaust...
> So,
> It's sort of in my blood.
> As far as  dogma, dogma sucks, I agree..
> But as far as trashing Maharishi or his movement;
> That just isn't my cup of tea, sorry...
> But I won't hold it against you;
> Your just a member of the 'Crow Tribe', I reacon
> You can't help it- you live to mock and mock to live..
> I understand completely...
> R.G.
>






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