--- In [email protected], new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Instead of calling the TMO a cult, personally I find its far more
> meaningful in terms of discussion and communication to say:
> 
> "The TMO is a strongly top-down organization, making moderate claims
> of being a unique path to enlightenment. Some experienced TMers can
> tend to exhibit elitism. The TMO at higher levels, uses mild control
> and motivation techniques."

As several have pointed out, the issue us not so 
much about "TMO as cult" as it is about "Some 
TMers are cultists."

I mean, the organization can try its best to 
manipulate all it wants, but if no one falls
for the manipulation, it's not a very successful
cult, now is it?  (Witness the failure of the
TM organization to get a measly 2000 people to
attend this latest course.)

My personal definition revolves not so much
around the organization as cult but around the
*behavior* of certain individuals within the
organization. Thus you can have an organization
that is pretty much a cult, but a bunch of 
people within that organization who *ignore*
all the cult manipulations and think for them-
selves. So they're not cultists in my book.
(An example of this might be some right-wing
Bible-thumper church that tries to intimidate
its members to vote Republican, but the congre-
gation votes its conscience instead, ignoring
all the manipulation.)

Then you've got the opposite, where *some* 
people within the cult-like organization take
upon themselves a ROLE -- they begin to identify
with the group so much that they begin to think 
of themselves as "defenders of the faith." 
It's the ROLE that makes them cultists.

People who adopt that ROLE are easy to spot 
because they are no longer in control of their 
lives.

Their actions are all determined by other 
people, the people they feel compelled to 
answer when "defending" the things they feel
are under attack. The cultists don't actually
ever initiate anything -- all they do is 
REACT. Someone says something they consider
negative or incorrect about their cult, and
the cultists "spring into action," coming up 
with any argument (or ad hominem) they can think
of to "prove" that the negativity isn't true.
And it never even OCCURS to them that they've
been suckered into doing this, and that the
people who said the stuff they're responding
to are using their own obsessions to control 
them.

IMO, all that they've "proved" is how easy
it is *to* control them. Anyone who wants a 
cultist to jump through hoops knows *exactly*
how to get them to do so. For example, if the 
person is a TM cultist, simply criticize TM. 
Bingo! The cultist HAS to respond, to "defend" 
the "honor" of the thing that they've become
a cultist about. 

In other words, my definition of a cultist 
is someone who can be consistently "programmed"
by those who have figured out what the cultist
is cultlike about.

A normal, everyday TMer who isn't over the top
can NOT be tricked into screaming and yelling
on the Internet to defend TM, just because 
someone says something negative about it. The
normal person just shrugs or laughs and goes
about his day. But the cultist CAN be tricked
into screaming and yelling. He LIVES for the
screaming and yelling, because he's assumed
the ROLE of apologist for his cult of choice.

Anyone who has adopted that ROLE has given 
up control of his or her life, and thus in
my book has become a cultist.







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