--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
<shempmcgurk@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
> > <shempmcgurk@> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > <snip>
> > > > [I wrote:]
> > > > > > Not only did you state the law incorrectly, but there
> > > > > > are vastly more differences than similarities.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes, and they are all -- embarassingly -- in Foley's favour.
> > > > 
> > > > Um, no, to the contrary.
> > > > 
> > > > Just for one thing, Clinton's affair with Lewinsky
> > > > was not illegal; she was 22 years old at the time,
> > > > a consenting adult (as has already been pointed out
> > > > to you, twice now).  Had Foley's pages been 22
> > > > years old, he would be in no legal trouble at all.
> > > > 
> > > > And the law in question (the Violence Against Women
> > > > Act of 1994), a provision of which the Republicans
> > > > used to entrap Clinton into lying about his entirely
> > > > legal affair with Lewinsky by making him testify
> > > > about his past sexual behavior in an unrelated 
> > > > sexual harassment lawsuit, was strenuously opposed
> > > > by Republicans when it was passed.
> > > 
> > > Just the opposite of what you say is, in fact, the reality.
> > 
> > Well, only with regard to the opposition of
> > Republicans.  I was misled by a Wikipedia article.
> > 
> > What the Republicans opposed (in the Senate; it passed
> > by voice vote in the House) was the Omnibus Crime 
> > Control Act of 1994, the whole ball of wax, including
> > the Violence Against Women Act (Title IV of the bill)
> > and changes to the rules of evidence (Title XXXII,
> > Section 320935).
> > 
> > <snip>
> > 
> > As to the article you quote (which I managed to
> > track down despite your not having provided a
> > URL),
> 
> The reason I didn't provide a URL was because I FUCKING TYPED IT 
> OUT BY HAND, YOU UNGRATEFUL WITCH.  Notice my typo's and compare 
> them to the article you say you found on the internet

The article I "say" I found?  You mean, the one I
*did* find, of course.

Why did you type it out instead of cutting and
pasting?

> and you'll see they 
> don't match.
> 
> I did provide citations to it.

To the print edition of The New Yorker from which
the Web version was taken.  You didn't cite the
Web version.

> > here's an interesting paragraph you *didn't*
> > quote:
> 
> I didn't quote it because I didn't have the time to also type that 
> out.

I don't understand why you thought you had to type
it out instead of cutting and pasting.

  Of course it adds and enhances what I am claiming...NOT what 
> you are claiming.

Well, no, to the contrary, Shemp.

<snip>
> > Which confirms my original point: the Republicans
> > used provisions of the crime bill (Molinari's
> > amendments to the rules of evidence) to entrap Clinton
> > into lying about his entirely legal affair with Lewinsky
> > by making him testify about his past sexual behavior
> > in an unrelated sexual harassment lawsuit.
> > 
> > That could hardly be more different than the
> > situation with Foley.
> 
> My invoking of the Clinton/Lewinsky affair was to draw a parallel 
> to what YOU YOURSELF invoked: the fact that Foley got foisted on 
> the legislative petard he himself was largely responsible for 
> becoming law.  THAT is the parallel I was drawing and it still 
> holds true: Clinton also got foisted on a petard of his own making.

Yes, Shemp.  It's a dumb parallel because, as I
said, the Clinton entrapment could hardly be more
different than the situation with Foley.  You threw
it in as a gratuitous bash of Clinton.  It didn't
contribute a thing to the Foley discussion.







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