<shempmcgurk@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > <snip> 
> > > > And as far as cowardise on the part of Bush is concerned: 
Well, 
> > > > going into the job, Bush knew that he:
> > > > 
> > > > 1) had an approximately 1 out of 10 chance of being killed on 
> > the 
> > > > job (4 out of 42 presidents have been assassinated in U.S. 
> > > history); 
> > > > and
> > > > 
> > > > 2) had an approximately 1 out of 8 chance of being wounded 
> > > ('cause, 
> > > > like Reagan, there have been numerous unsuccessful 
assassination 
> > > > attempts that have wounded presidents).
> > > > 
> > > > Name me one war U.S. soldiers have ever been involved in 
where 
> > the 
> > > > odds were worse than that.   For example,  8,752,000 U.S. 
> > military 
> > > > served in Vietnam and 59,000 died.  That's about a 1 out of 
150 
> > > > chance to be killed.  And there were 211,556 wounded...about 
a 1 
> > > out 
> > > > of 40 chance to be wounded.
> > > > 
> > > > Call him whatever you want but a "coward" is totally 
unwarranted.
> > > >
> > > My response is probably pretty predictable, but when you kill 
and 
> > > maim 25,000 soldiers from the comfort of your armchair, 
*that's* 
> > > cowardice, on a breathtaking scale, especially then strutting 
> > around 
> > > an aircraft carrier deck with tennis balls in your crotch. 
Sorry, 
> > > but the guy is a total coward and armchair warrior, a real wimp.
> > >
> > 
> > Then what does that make MacArthur who oversaw 33,000 Americans 
(and 
> > countless enemy casualities) deaths during the Korean War?
> > 
> > And Eisenhower during WW2 who oversaw 292,000 American deaths?
> > 
> > And Grant who oversaw several hundred thousand deaths during the 
> > Civil War?
> > 
> > And they ALL oversaw their wars from a safe distance from the 
> > front...
> > 
> > Were they all "total cowards", too?
> >
> I believe that the civil war death count was 437,000. Does that mean
> that Lincoln was a coward too?

When it comes to war, and sending men to their death;
This is never an easy task, and always takes it's toll.
Viet Nam, eventually killed LBJ.
Lincold died after the war, he was killed.
I don't think it's the numbers of died and wounded, although this 
certainly adds karma on karma...
But it's more a quality of truth...
That is where the real bravery comes in.
Anybody can kill, given the right circumstance, at least any good 
soldier...
But it takes a brave man or woman to speak the truth.
This is Lincoln's legacy;
The shear power of truth in his words, and in his vision of Unity.
Without Lincoln, and some of the other's;
There would be no United States of America...
If we hadn't invaded Iraq, on the other hand,
And if we had a follow-up plan after the fall of Baghdad;
Then perhaps Mr.Bush wouldn't appear now, as such a fool.
'A man who claims victory, prematurely, wears his crown to his 
demise'.
R.G.
R.G.







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