Oh my god!! it really is true about the shakti thing. I just googled Babaji death 1984, the year I had my enlightenment. There were dozens of websites about this guru who passed the day I had my awakening, February 14, 1984. http://www.babaji.net/teachings-babaji.htm --- In [email protected], "Jeffrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I may have some personal experience with receiving a blast of shakti > from a departing master, but it may have nothing at all to do with > whether or not you are conscioussly a devotee, just whether or not > you need it and are ready to receive it. I had a profound > enlightenment experience, in the mid 80's when I was in Fairfeild. > It happened the morning of Valentines day. There were many months of > miraculous stuff leading up to it, and I kind of felt it was coming > about a week before it hit me. I remember at the time someone > telling me that a master named Babaji dropped the body on the same > day, but I have no idea who he was! Dont know a thing about him or > if it was even true, but it made me wonder. Anyway, after about 3 > weeks I started to return to my ego dominated conscioussness, darn > it! But this makes me hopeful to get Maharishi's grace when he > passes, if that is possible.But I do think it would be entirely > irrelevant whether you were on some course or not. Only the ego > experiences time and space limitations in that way.When you are > ready, you are ready. And one thing I have learned for sure, extra > meditation does not help!! > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > > ... I don't recall of M indicated this in that > > > > same lecture or if I heard it else where, that > > > > disciples of great saints often get enlightened > > > > when their master drops the body. So, if you have > > > > been regular all these years and have the > > > > opportunity to go to the course, My advise > > > > would be to GO! > > > > > > While this may be true, another view on this > > > phenomenon, spoken of often with a smile in the > > > Tibetan Buddhist community, is that this idea > > > of "those who were with him at the end got > > > instantly enlightened" and/or "those who were > > > with him at the end are the ones who 'really' > > > know his 'real' teaching" is almost always > > > promoted *by those people*. > > > > > > The smile, in Buddhist traditions, is because > > > such people tend to be the ones who try to > > > *take over* the tradition of the teacher at > > > that point, and use "I was there at the end" > > > as their justification for doing so. > > > > > > It's a pretty well-known phenomenon in spiritual > > > circles. I certainly saw it in the Rama trip, > > > and it is discussed openly in the Chogyam Trungpa > > > and Muktananda trips. > > > > > > It's just what happens -- those who "hang in > > > there to the end" expect to be *rewarded* for > > > doing it. And so they come up with stories > > > (which may or may not be true) as to how they > > > were rewarded ("I got enlightened at his funeral") > > > or stories justifying the fact that they took > > > over the tradition ("I was there at the end, and > > > now the Master appears to me in my dreams every > > > night and tells me the 'real' truths and how to > > > lead the movement"). > > > > > > There may *be* some truth to there being a nice > > > blast of energy when an enlightened being croaks, > > > but I'm just mentioning this because (ahem) TM > > > people seem to be blissfully ignorant of trends > > > in spirituality that other traditions speak of > > > openly and have gotten enough distance on to be > > > able to laugh at. > > > > > > When Maharishi dies -- whether it is next week > > > or in twenty years -- my advice is to use one > > > very easy criterion to judge such stories of the > > > "big blast of energy" *as* he died. If the person(s) > > > telling you the story is using it to enhance his > > > or her own self importance, or to justify the > > > position he or she holds in the "new movement," > > > remember to laugh. > > > > > There may be some truth to this rumor about people getting a blast > > of spiritual energy when a Maharishi leaves. I've noticed that > > anyone who drops the body is easier to reach for a little while > > afterwards- I've experienced this phenomenon when they are coming > in > > also. > > > > So if a devotee is focused on Maharishi when he leaves, there > could > > be such an experience. Whether that results in the devotee's > > enlightenment is dependent on the surrender of the devotee of > > course. As we can see from the lunatics in Holland who still > refuse > > their enlightenment "not today, James...bring the carriage 'round > > instead..." > > >
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