jim_flanegin wrote:
> --- In [email protected], rama krishna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> <snip>
>   
>>    -"A wise man should avoid married life as if it were a burning 
>>     
> pit of live coals. From the contact comes sensation, from sensation 
> thirst, from thirst clinging, by ceasing from that, the soul is 
> delivered from all sinful existence." 
>   
>>   - Lord Buddha 
>>     
> <snip>
>
> Sorry, but this is just complete bullsh*t, and I'd bet my life 
> Buddha never said this. I guess the first thing that comes to mind 
> is why sensation leads to thirst. Sure it does if the Self is not 
> realized and someone is lost in the play of the senses. (But even if 
> they are, how will they develop a desire to transcend that if they 
> don't experience it?) 
>
> How weak would someone be that the only way they could avoid 
> attachment would be to avoid sensation. The whole thing is so 
> perverted. What do we do, go through life wrapped up like mummies, 
> or encased like fetuses? A rediculous, immature and poorly thought 
> out quotation from someone who hadn't a clue about Buddha's teaching.
>
> The other thing that occurs to me when reading all these high-minded 
> quotations about celibacy, is Who Makes The Babies? All the 
> supposedly lowly ignorant folk? And if this is so, what do you think 
> their kids would be like?
>
> Stupid stuff. Maybe for monks, but nothing of value here for worldly 
> folk. Only adds to sexual repression and confusion, and um, seems 
> like there's enough of that to go around already. No more 
> puritanical ideas, please.
I think most of these rules were made by priests at the behest of kings 
or by priests turned kings themselves to control the populace.   In fact 
the celibacy thing is probably an early attempt at population control in 
times of drought and famine.   There is some credence to *excessive* sex 
increasing vata but other than that there is not much of a reason for 
celibacy.



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