--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > A kind Providence has placed in our breasts a hatred of the > > unjust and cruel, in order that we may preserve ourselves > > from cruelty and injustice. They who bear cruelty, are > > accomplices in it. The pretended gentleness which excludes > > that charitable rancour, produces an indifference which is > > half an approbation. They never will love where they ought > > to love, who do not hate where they ought to hate. > > > > --Edmund Burke, "Letters on a Regicide Peace" > > > "Ought to hate?" > > Seems to me that -- once again -- you're quoting > some "authority" who has told you not only that > it's *OK* to hate, but who *TO* hate.
Well, first, I don't believe I've ever quoted an authority before to this effect, so it would appear that you're hallucinating again. Second, the quote says nothing about *whom* to hate; it seems you hallucinated that as well in order to fabricate some relevance for your little Charrick thought-stopper. Burke is obviously not talking about creating God in one's own image, nor is he advocating that one hate *people*. Third, what the quote *actually* advocates is to hate what is unjust and cruel, which I would interpret as having a strong aversion to that which fosters unnecessary suffering, rather than remaining indifferent toward it. Fourth, you may prefer to remain indifferent to what is unjust and cruel, but I'd suggest you might want to consider whether such indifference might well also inhibit your capacity to love, as the quote says. Fifth, for you *in particular* to advocate remaining indifferent to what you consider unjust and cruel is ironic in the extreme. Not for nothing do I call you the Master of Inadvertent Irony. Sixth, if you weren't so blinded by your own hatred for me and weren't so anxious to find yet another way to put me down, you would have remembered that a day or so ago I posted part of a news article about the Amish community that lost five (soon to be six) children in a horrific school shooting and how determined they were *not* to hate the sick monster who had done it or even to feel anger over their loss. Obviously the article and the quote above represent two very different approaches to life. If you had put a moment's thought into it before your knee-jerk lashing-out, it might have occurred to you that I was unlikely to be advocating *both* views, and therefore that I must have had some other purpose for making those postings. As you so frequently do, you missed the point completely. Perhaps some of the more rational people here will have been inspired by these two posts to actually do some reflection on the contrasting views. For example: Does the Amish avoidance of hate stunt their capacity to love? Does the fact that the fund they have established for the victims' families *includes* the family of the shooter suggest otherwise? The Amish are pacifists and do not serve in the armed forces. What does their refusal to participate in the killing and maiming of others in war say about their ability to be loving? Do we see a lack of love in their community? On the other hand, the Amish keep themselves isolated from the larger society and make no attempt to oppose its cruelties and injustices. Is that an indication of a limited capacity for love? Are they actually *repressing* hatred and anger, only to have them come out in other negative behaviors? Is their intolerance for the ways of the larger society itself a form of hatred? I don't know the answers, but I thought they were interesting questions to ponder. Too bad you couldn't see past your own hatred to the issues the two posts raised. But, of course, no surprise. Thank you > for sharing with us the influences that made you > what you are, but no thanks... > > > "You know you've created God in your own image > when he hates the exact same people that you do." > > -- Gordon Charrick To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
