--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" jyouells@
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" <jyouells@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], Rick Archer groups@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > on 10/6/06 9:34 PM, dhamiltony2k5 at dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Whoa, who knows these things? That Maharishi got run out of
> India.
> > > > > That Maharishi, Bevan and Greg cried like babies as it
> happened.
> > > > > Obviously, Maharishi is in a 'safe' place, has not moved
> since and
> > > > > likely is not going home to India to die. Who saw the
> ejection
> > > > > happen? Slow down and give some annotation. Names and
> places of
> > who
> > > > > might have seen what when. It possibly could explain a lot.
> > > > >
> > > > Here are some points from a recent conversation with a friend
> who is
> > > in a
> > > > position to know:
> > > >
> > > > * Ever since Maharishi slighted Indira Gandhi by not standing
> when
> > she
> > > > entered the room (as everyone else did) and as I heard first
> heard
> > the
> > > > story, actually walking out of the room, the Indian government
> has
> > > given the
> > > > TMO a very hard time.
> > > > * The press reports (coldblueiceman can provide a link) about
> the
> > > riots in
> > > > the pundit facilities are true, according to Girish Varma
> > > > (http://www.tmbulletin.net/images/varma01.jpg). There have been
> > three
> > > such
> > > > riots, each resulting in deaths. Some deaths were due to
> pundit boys
> > > > escaping from the compound and trying to make long journeys
> home
> > with
> > > no
> > > > money or help (we¹re talking 12-year old boys).
> > > > * The riots were due to the fact that the boys were underfed
> and
> > > mistreated,
> > > > largely because administrators were pocketing most of the money
> > > allocated
> > > > for their support. There may also have been outside
> > government-backed
> > > rabble
> > > > rousers.
> > > > * The total number of Maharishi pundits in India is probably
> around
> > > 5,000
> > > > (optimistic estimate), and these are poorly trained.
> > > > * Because the large pundit groups weren¹t working out,
> Maharishi
> > > decided to
> > > > have many smaller groups, with about 1,000 pundits in each. But
> > these
> > > too
> > > > fell prey to corruption and embezzlement, so the ³pundits²
> > > aren¹t really
> > > > receiving any genuine training.
> > > > * Despite these failures, the Indian TMO is still fabulously
> > wealthy,
> > > > primarily as a result of real estate deals. The TMO is the 2nd
> > largest
> > > land
> > > > holder in India, after the Indian Government. The TMO is also
> the
> > > largest
> > > > importer of foreign donations, but this is mostly used to
> finance
> > its
> > > > business enterprises, and few stated spiritual goals are
> achieved.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Enlightening.
> > > This is the most telling:
> > >
> > > "
> > >
> > > * Despite these failures, the Indian TMO is still fabulously
> > wealthy,
> > > primarily as a result of real estate deals. The TMO is the 2nd
> largest
> > > land holder in India, after the Indian Government. The TMO is
> also the
> > > largest importer of foreign donations, but this is mostly used to
> > > finance its business enterprises, and few stated spiritual goals
> are
> > > achieved."
> > > '2nd largest land holder in India' and the 'largest importer
> of
> > > foreign donations'. That'll keep 'em in crowns for awhile....
> > >
> > >
> > > JohnY
> > >
> >
> > I quess Maharishi took the whole British thing in India very
> seriously.
> > I've read that the Queen is personally the 2nd largest land holder
> in
> > the US.
>
>
> Where did you hear that from, Lyndon LaRouche?
>
> Well, perhaps it's true. The first largest land holder is, I've
> heard, Ted Turner, the self-proclaimed socialist.
>
http://www.endgame.org/landlords-100.html
You're right, my apologies, according to Worth Magazine:
This Land Is Their Land
by William P. Barrett
Worth magazine, February 1997
http://www.worth.com/articles/M9702C04.html
© 1997 Capital Publishing Limited Partnership
Some are rich, some are powerful, many are old. These are the 100 individuals and families who own the biggest chunks of the nation [not including publicly-held corporations]. Taken as a group, with number one owning 1.3 million acres and number 100 owning 95,000, they hold more than 1 percent of the country, a landmass the size of Kentucky.
Most of America's biggest spreads are in the West. Here are the storied dynastic ranches owned by heirs of the Kings, Waggoners, and Burnetts. This is also where corporate chiefs like Ted Turner and Henry Singleton have staked their claims (together Turner and Singleton own nearly 3 percent of New Mexico) and where people like timber baron Red Emmerson and "Potato King" J. R. Simplot bought the land that helped them make their money and their mark.
To these people, land has intrinsic meaning and merit. "I like land. I like to look at it," says one. "It's something you can count on," says another. "Whatever you own will be worth more in the future," says a third.
But there's concern behind the confidence and contentment. It has to do with the future, with whether the next generation will keep these vast tracts intact or allow them to dissipate through squabbling or poor management. Within the next 10 to 20 years, many of the country's great holdings will pass to a new group of people, through inheritance or sale. What happens to much of the West, with its powerful hold on the American imagination, will be up to them.
1. R. E. "TED" TURNER
Roswell, Georgia
1.3 million acres in New Mexico, Montana, Nebraska, Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina
Ted Turner, 58, has a taste for land that's as expansive as his public persona. Among his holdings: 1.15 million acres in New Mexico, amounting to 1.5 percent of the state. What drives his purchases? Turn to "Number One: In His Newest Field."
2. ARCHIE ALDIS "RED" EMMERSON
Anderson, California
1.2 million acres in California
Sierra Pacific Industries was a small, family-run forest operation until the 1970s, when Red Emmerson began aggressively buying timberland. See "Number 2: His Heart Is in His Trees."
3. HENRY E. SINGLETON
Beverly Hills, California
1.15 million acres in New Mexico and California
Henry Singleton -- wheeler-dealer, co-founder of Teledyne, trustee of Ronald Reagan's blind trust -- started buying cattle ranches across a 250-mile-long belt in central and southeastern New Mexico in the 1980s. Land specialists say he now owns about 1.4 percent of the state (1.1 million acres), plus a 45,000-acre spread in California's Salinas Valley. Singleton, 79, declined to comment, but he once told an Albuquerque newspaper: "I'm dedicated to the improvement of the land. I think everyone who owns property has the same feeling."
----------That will teach me to accept sources without further research.
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